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 Bismarck.Oldmancebi
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By Bismarck.Oldmancebi 2016-02-12 10:28:12
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Curious if anyone knows but does anyone happen to know if the additional HP effect on Excalibur was removed?

I only ask because I've noticed before when item level relic equipment was ripped from dats before that their augment wasn't present but in-game they were on said equipment.

If anyone has it or has seen would you let me know? Thanks!
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By Asura.Materdark 2016-02-12 10:45:42
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Bismarck.Oldmancebi said: »
Curious if anyone knows but does anyone happen to know if the additional HP effect on Excalibur was removed?

I only ask because I've noticed before when item level relic equipment was ripped from dats before that their augment wasn't present but in-game they were on said equipment.

If anyone has it or has seen would you let me know? Thanks!

well I wanted to know whats the max pld can get with hes REGEN effect aftermath?

SCH Regen V as the gear changes day in and out ><...



some OP was saying they are talking about THIS relic weapon here I don't see it maybe I'm blind...

"Hidden Effect: Does Triple Damage on the first swing of an attack round 13% of the time." I want to know as well if someone gets it before me say it here.
screenshot does not show it idk but will know once I upgrade soon :P (I only came to play the game just for this ***lol)
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By Arcto 2016-02-12 11:23:50
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Gear does not have any boost to regen from this at all.
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By FaeQueenCory 2016-02-12 11:31:41
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iirc, there's a couple of translation fails on the English localized versions of these.
I believe the loss of the added HP based en-damage is just an error and exists in the Japanese client.

As for the regen question....
Um....
>_> the Aftermath is 30HP/tic regen and 3MP/tick refresh.
Not really sure there's anything else to say on that.
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By Rooks 2016-02-12 12:10:35
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FaeQueenCory said: »
iirc, there's a couple of translation fails on the English localized versions of these.
I believe the loss of the added HP based en-damage is just an error and exists in the Japanese client.

Correct: http://jp.ffxiah.com/item/20685

The HP effect is still there on the JP text.
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By Bismarck.Oldmancebi 2016-02-12 12:25:56
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Thanks guys. Much appreciated!
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By Asura.Materdark 2016-02-12 22:19:18
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FaeQueenCory said: »
iirc, there's a couple of translation fails on the English localized versions of these.
I believe the loss of the added HP based en-damage is just an error and exists in the Japanese client.

As for the regen question....
Um....
>_> the Aftermath is 30HP/tic regen and 3MP/tick refresh.
Not really sure there's anything else to say on that.

I wanted to know if scholar regen V spells stack with that...?

Also what's the max Regen effect can a SCH give?
Thank you for the info :P
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-02-12 22:21:22
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Aftermath is its own buff. Yes, it stacks.
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By Masterbuyer 2016-02-12 22:21:56
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Aftermath is its own buff. Yes, it stacks.

Have you tested it?

Also what's the max Regen effect can a SCH give?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-02-12 22:23:36
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Have you tested if Haste stacks with marches or GEO haste?
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By Asura.Materdark 2016-02-12 22:48:24
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Have you tested if Haste stacks with marches or GEO haste?
yeah it does but I was hoping there would be some glitchs or bug:~

If anyone can give me info to this that would be great let us know what gear you using for it.
what's the max Regen effect can a SCH give?
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By Phoenix.Demonjustin 2016-02-12 23:26:59
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I don't know SCH's max regen but I assure you that they stack as Aftermath is a completely different buff.

All of that said, I'm happy that my HP affect isn't gone and that Excalibur's Aftermath isn't as bad as before.
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By Asura.Materdark 2016-02-12 23:34:40
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Phoenix.Demonjustin said: »
I don't know SCH's max regen but I assure you that they stack as Aftermath is a completely different buff.

All of that said, I'm happy that my HP affect isn't gone and that Excalibur's Aftermath isn't as bad as before.

I'm kind of excited I would want to know the figures tho
nvm PLD Cleaving on the OP level :P
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kainstryder 2016-02-13 00:39:18
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If you're PLD cleaving with a sword, I got some bad news for you...
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By Phoenix.Demonjustin 2016-02-13 00:53:21
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I know nothing of modern cleaves having just returned, so~ forgive my ignorance but... what would a modern PLD use? :o
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Quetzalcoatl.Kainstryder said: »
If you're PLD cleaving with a sword, I got some bad news for you...

...check my other threads lol
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kainstryder 2016-02-13 01:34:21
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Asura.Materdark said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Kainstryder said: »
If you're PLD cleaving with a sword, I got some bad news for you...

...check my other threads lol

All I see is confusion/complaining, not sure what I'm looking for.
Phoenix.Demonjustin said: »
I know nothing of modern cleaves having just returned, so~ forgive my ignorance but... what would a modern PLD use? :o

Aeolian Edge
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By Phoenix.Demonjustin 2016-02-13 02:00:15
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Ah~ ty.
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2016-02-13 05:29:29
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aeolian edge not always viable though
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By Sylph.Oraen 2016-02-13 05:54:19
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It's a Hell of a lot more viable than circle blade...
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2016-02-13 05:59:05
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Sylph.Oraen said: »
It's a Hell of a lot more viable than circle blade...

tell that to a large group of puks!
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By Sylph.Oraen 2016-02-13 06:38:55
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Then just find better targets, because Circle Blade is awful.
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2016-02-13 07:15:54
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i wasn't saying that circle blade was good at all just saying that aeolian is not always viable but feel free to read more in to my comment than is necessary i play an mmo so far be it for me to judge how people spend their time
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-13 08:09:50
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Asura.Materdark said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Kainstryder said: »
If you're PLD cleaving with a sword, I got some bad news for you...

...check my other threads lol
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By Boshi 2016-02-13 11:23:34
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Cerberus.Anjisnu said: »
i wasn't saying that circle blade was good at all just saying that aeolian is not always viable but feel free to read more in to my comment than is necessary i play an mmo so far be it for me to judge how people spend their time

The most "it's my $12.95!" comment of the year award goes to..
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2016-02-13 11:59:01
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As far as SCH Regen V goes, it can vary depending on gear, augments, and if they have Light Arts up.

Base is 40/tic
With Light Arts up, it's 64/tic
***Tabula Rasa adds +12/tic***
Bolelbunga adds 10%
Savant Bonnet +2 adds either +5/tic, or 10%/tic. Testing was done, and shows it to be 10%, but BGWiki still lists +5, so I am including both numbers.
Arbatel Bonnet adds +10 (probably +10%, since Savant +2 testing showed +10%, and most Emp 109 gear only included the stat vomit, with giving no actual increase to the JA enhancements)
Arbatel Bonnet +1 adds +15 (again, probably +15%)
Bookworms Cape gets a flat +1~10/tic.

So, with Light Arts up and Cape, Club, and 119 Emp head used, and assuming the testing is correct, that it is +x% for the Emp Head bonuses:

(64+10)*1.25 = 92.5, so +92

If this is wrong, I'm sorry. Not at my PC to run actual tests.

As far as I know, that is all of the armor that gives Regen Potency +. There may be some newer augments I haven't seen yet. If so, I apologize.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-02-13 12:01:28
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Can get Regen Potency+3 on any Telchine piece as well via duskdim stones.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2016-02-13 12:21:08
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Can get Regen Potency+3 on any Telchine piece as well via duskdim stones.

That's right. I thought you could, but guess I missed it. But by getting the Regen Potency augment, you lose Enhancing Magic Duration. And personally, Id rather the spell last longer, so the total HP stored is greater.

***Theoretical mathy crap***

92/tic base
+12 HP / tic (4/5 Telchine)
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104 HP/tic


104/tic
*56 tics (base duration + 60 secs [20/20 Light Arts JPs])
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5824 total HP restored

Vs

92/tic base
* 69 tics (base duration + 60 secs [20/20 Light Arts JPs] + 40 secs [4/5 Telchine]
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6348 total HP restored
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By Rooks 2016-02-13 13:12:19
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Boshi said: »
The most "it's my $12.95!" comment of the year award goes to..

I read it the opposite, as "It's your $12.95, do whatever"

Circle Blade really is terrible, though. I really wish they'd have let us unlock Uriel Blade for use outside Campaign.
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2016-02-13 13:13:40
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Boshi said: »
Cerberus.Anjisnu said: »
i wasn't saying that circle blade was good at all just saying that aeolian is not always viable but feel free to read more in to my comment than is necessary i play an mmo so far be it for me to judge how people spend their time

The most "it's my $12.95!" comment of the year award goes to..
i get that i didn't use punctuation and whatnot but you clearly missed any meaning i had in that post lol
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