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By Jassik 2016-01-21 00:37:58
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Asura.Saevel said: »
If it exists then they will see it, it's just a matter of time. All regular objects reflect incoming light / radiation and there is a ton of that in the Galaxy.


That's pretty variable. It would have to be on the same side of the sun and toward the inner half of it's projected orbit. That could take decades or even centuries. The big problem with distant objects that do not emit light is that they become so dim that other light sources obscure them.

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Another issue is we believe there is a large amount of dark matter beyond the kuiper belt which would also hinder our ability to see this planet.

I fail to see how dark matter could effect this, since it doesn't react at all with light or normal matter.
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-01-21 02:08:55
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Jassik said: »
That's pretty variable. It would have to be on the same side of the sun and toward the inner half of it's projected orbit. That could take decades or even centuries. The big problem with distant objects that do not emit light is that they become so dim that other light sources obscure them.

If you don't know the object is there then yes, but if you do happen to know where the object is or should be, then it's merely a matter of time. Remember this object, though not emitting it's own light, happens to be extremely close to us, in cosmic terms. It would be incredibly dim, practically invisible, so dim that nobody would bother looking in it's general direction, unless they happen to know it's there. In that case they could dial in the telescope and look for the smallest, consistent, minuscule glimmers of light. Those other bright yet distant objects would provide that light and the planet would create a shadow. It would be very small, yet it would still exist and be detectable to someone looking for it.

Space is vast, so vast that people often are incapable of wrapping their minds around it. Objects such as this planet could remain invisible for centuries if there was no reason to think they existed in the first place. But once there is, it's merely a matter of figuring out it's orbit, based on gravitational disturbances, and then training telescopes at it's possible positions until one gets a glimmer of reflected light. This takes a long *** time, a decade or more perhaps, but certainly not centuries.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-01-29 10:19:56
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Why scientists think they've found a new planet in our solar system



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The six most distant known objects in the solar system with orbits exclusively beyond Neptune (magenta) all mysteriously line up in a single direction. Also, when viewed in three dimensions, they all tilt nearly identically away from the plane of the solar system. Batygin and Brown show that a planet with 10 times the mass of Earth in a distant eccentric orbit anti-aligned with the other six objects (orange) is required to maintain this configuration. The diagram was created using WorldWide Telescope.
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It used to be that there were nine planets in our solar system. Although some people claimed that somewhere, out there, was a mysterious tenth planet called “Planet X.” In 2006, the IAU reclassified Pluto, in a hotly contested move that left the solar system with only eight official planets.

But recently, researchers published an argument that there is in fact another large planet in our solar system that we haven’t yet seen.

“We spent a good year-and-a-half out of the past two years not believing ourselves and actually trying very hard to prove that this idea was wrong and in fact crazy,” says Caltech’s Mike Brown, “But after the initial hints, we have been finding more and more signatures exactly where we predicted. And it's getting to the point where we believe it. We believe it enough where we're willing to write a paper and stand up and say, ‘Yes. For the past century everybody who said there was a Planet X is crazy. And they were all wrong. But we're right.'”

Mike Brown and his colleague Konstantin Batygin argue that Planet Nine (which is not the same as Pluto, and also not the same as the old Planet X) should have a mass about 10 times that of Earth, and an orbit about 20 times farther from the sun than that of Neptune.

To put that distance in context, the New Horizon spacecraft just passed Pluto in the Kuiper Belt, which is 4 to 5 billion miles away from the sun. Planet Nine, at its closest approach to the sun, is 20 billion miles away from the sun. And on the farthest point in its elliptical orbit? It’s 100 billion miles away from the sun.

“Which is why it took us so long to realize it was there,” Brown says.

"What we have found," Batygin says, "is really a gravitational signature of Planet Nine. And that signature is seen in the most distant orbits of this debris field beyond the orbit of Neptune that we commonly refer to as the Kuiper belt. If you look at the furthest orbits in this debris field, they all kind of swing out the same way. The only reasonable explanation for this confinement, this grouping of the orbits, is that there's a distant Planet Nine which is rather massive keeping them together."

At this point there are still many unknowns about what Brown and Batygin say is the ninth planet in our solar system.

“We don't know where it is,” Brown says, “But what we do know is we know its orbit. And what that means practically is that we know its path across the sky. ... So our best guess is that Planet Nine is in the November sky. If you look up straight overhead at midnight on Thanksgiving Day you're probably looking more or less in the direction of Planet Nine.”

Batygin and Brown think Planet Nine is composed of similar materials to Uranus and Neptune: predominantly ice and rock with an atmosphere of 10 to 20 percent hydrogen and helium.

They think they’ll be able to detect the outlying planet sometime in the next two to eight years.

“Mostly, the reaction has been very positive, especially from our colleagues that have read the paper. They're more or less compelled by the arguments,” Batygin says. “There's been also a bit of skepticism, which we are very happy with. ... Ultimately what we are hoping here is that this theoretical prediction of the orbit will trigger a hunt, an observational hunt for Planet Nine. That's the goal of this paper.”

As far as a name for the newly discovered planet? Batygin says he likes the sound of “Planet George.”

“It’s a perfectly good name,” Batygin says.

There have, however, been a flood of emails asking Batygin to name the planet “Bowie.”

“I must be getting coerced,” Batygin says. “Because that's starting to sound like a really good idea. But realistically, you know, this is the kind of question that should be left until this Planet Nine is caught on camera.”

This article is based on an interview that aired on PRI's Science Friday.
 
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By Cerberus.Kaht 2016-01-29 11:05:33
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As much as the thought of a 9th planet fascinates me, NASA's WISE telescope scanned the entire sky twice from 2010-2011 in the infrared spectrum, and as the video states: any planet of the size being proposed would have been detectable by the WISE telescope.

But, I'm still keeping my fingers crossed :)
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By Ackeron 2016-01-29 11:08:04
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Back in my day we already had 9 planets. The 9th planet was the best planet since that was where I stored all my corn.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2020-05-05 18:44:15
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
We named all the moons of the other planets but not our own.
So you are saying aliens named the moon the moon for us?
Earth's moons name is Luna.
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https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/solar-system/our-solar-system/overview/
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