Weapons That Do Not Sell On AH

On most pages of equippable items there's a line that says something like "Root / Weapons / Daggers", which indicates what sort of weapon this particular item belongs to. For weapons that don't sell on the Auction House, such as all the new ZNM ones (Shusui, Foolkiller, etc), it doesn't list what sort of weapon it is. I spent ten minutes trying to find out what Nanatsusayanotachi was and ended up getting the answer from Wiki.

I know it's not a serious issue since this applies to perhaps a few dozen items max, but maybe the sort of weapon or item they are somewhere on their pages would help to clear any confusion?

You can't determine from the dmg/dly/job that Nanatsusayanotachi is a Great Katana? Even if you can't easily see from one of those what type it is, it takes a whole 5 seconds to click a link and hit backspace to go back to FFXIAH?

Wouldn't that take a lot of work to put in the database now?

Its not just the weapons, but also armor and items too. Items alone would probably take forever.

I would assume that what sort of item something is would already be in the database. I was surprised that it's not being displayed already, hence why I made this post. If they deem it too much work, then they won't bother. That is fine, I just thought I'd make the suggestion.



I'm not an expert on SAM, and one of the pictures had somebody holding it like a Sword / Katana.

I'm talking about items that are for missions. There is a way to look for them, like Gnat Pellets, you just type it on item search and look it up that way.

But, what if you need something for AF, but don't know what it's name is? Seperating items that don't sell at all into catagories would suck. Like AF quest items, or the AFs themselves. There is a difference between Warrior's feet and Fighter's feet.

Have you ever known a sword/katana to have higher than 30-45 dmg? lol

Excaliber.

Organics also

I'm not talking about rare/ex items or every other item in existence. I'm talking about weapons.



As I said, I know nothing about SAM or what their typical Katana stats are.

Whats the difference to this website? R/E is R/E and should all be treated accordingly

Ok... Have you ever known a sword/katana to have a 77 DMG... ***.

Why were you looking at a Sam-only weapon then? :P

The pictures are not holding them like a Great Katana. If they were, I would have known straight away that it's a Great Katana.



if type = weapon, display type

It wouldn't be hard to tell the difference between a weapon and another item.

no sword nor katana has a damage rating over 52, I believe.

That would break the game if you can dual wield something like that.

The statistics aside, it was just a suggestion. If they view this thread and think the same as you, then nothing will be done about. As I said, that is fine, I am merely putting the suggestion ahead.

Thing is, I'm not exactly stupid, and it confused me. I'd never heard of the item before. I'm pretty sure there will be other people in my position.

(Common Sense) (You can have this.)

And I 'believe' that pic of them holding it in one hand is the cheer motion. That or they just .dat modded it. :P

Either way... Why would you look at a pic to determine weapon type? lol

It's nothing to do with common sense. Can you honestly tell me you'd know exactly what something is the first time you see it?

The picture is .dat modded, yes. I know that now that I know it's a Great Katana. But I didn't know it was .dat modded before that, did I? And I'd look at a picture to determine its weapon type when it's not displayed with it's statistics on its page. That's the whole point I'm making.

Woo, personally I think your suggestion doesn't make sense. When looking at an item in FFXIAH the path is there so that if you want to buy the item from AH you know the path to take.

Where items that you can't buy off AH are involved, there won't be that information because it's not possible. You need to remember that FFXIAH is a database of transactions taken from the in game auction houses. If you want further information on the item you can click on the FFXI Wiki link that is on every item listed on FFXIAH.

Not a flame/attack/troll, just my opinion on your suggestion.

I see where Wooo is coming from simply form an ex-web designer point of view. Information is always supposed to be in a clearly organized, fully fleshed point of view. It's not a terribly big deal 'cause we can just wiki stuff, but still; makes sense enough to me.

It's nothing to do with buying the item. It's to do with knowing what it is. Visit the page of any ZNM weapon. Without knowing what job can use what weapons, or without personally knowing what that weapon is, how would you know?

Yes, you can look at the statistics, but what if you don't know what they usually are? Yes, you can look at pictures, but what if they're misleading?

I am not saying it's so people know where to buy them. I'm saying it's so people know what sort of weapon it is. Nowhere on any of their pages does it list the weapon type. Doesn't say "Katana" anywhere on the Shusui page. Doesn't say "Great Axe" on Foolkiller's page either.

As I said, I'm just putting the suggestion forward. There's probably other people who may have made the same mistake on other newer weapons.

But why would you be using an auction house website to search for an item that you can't obtain off the auction house?

Because it loads quickly.

And, again, to reiterate the point, this is not about buying it. I'm not after the item. But it's a new item that I'd never heard of and there was nowhere on its page to specify exactly what it was.

I really cant see why they wouldn't fix this. Just for symmetry sake. If you go to Hagun it shows up directly under the weapon Root / Weapons / Great Katana same with all the older weapons yet when you go to the ZNM ones it does not. So I would guess it has nothing to do with anything other than that. If the weapons format is a certain way make it that way for all weapons not just some. If they never noticed the problem now they know about it and can fix it accordingly if they feel it warrants the time to fix it.

Yeah, this website is really handy when looking for anything really.

This sort of option can in no way hurt the site, but it's in no way "OMG SCRAGG MUST FIX ASAP OR WE ALL DIE!!!!" level, so I think it's pretty reasonable to ask. I just wouldn't get disappointed if it's put on the back-burner for a long time.

I search for R/E gear all the time to quickly pull up stats, along with Power Search which pulls up r/e gear along with AH-able items.


Nonsense, that would be perfectly balanced.

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I think next time I'll post suggestions on one of my registered mules. I think people are judging the suggestion based on who posted it rather than the suggestion itself.

Anyways. Thanks for reading / considering, Mr. Admin, sir. :)

There's actually quite a lot of information on that page:
- Can click on FFXI Wiki link to find out all the information you need
- Can read comments to find out information
- Can click on the players with this item equipped to find out what it is
- Can click on images to see what it is

The Root / Weapons / GK for Hagun etc is to show where you can buy it on AH, as there is no possible path structure for RA/EX items, it won't show. It's not bugged or wrong, it's just that the information it is displaying doesn't exist.

Again Woo, this is just my personal opinion to your suggestion.


It doesn't matter who suggested this, my response would be the same. Just that because you wrote this I'm taking the time to offer my opinion. If you don't want it then I'll stop posting, all you need to do is ask.

My point is, I shouldn't have to read through eighteen comments to find out what sort of weapon it is. It should be clearly labelled with the rest of the statistics.

Or you could just click on Wiki. Not only would you see what 'type' of weapon it is, but you'd ALSO see how you can obtain it. :P

I guess my interpretation of what you wanted is different to what you're saying. In your OP it sounded like you wanted the Root / Weapons / GK on all items. Now it sounds like you just want items to be listen more like their image name.

So, this:http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=18447
Would look more like this:


Right?

Something like:
(Great Katana)[Main] All Races
DPS: 11 DMG:77 Delay:420 STR+7 DEX+7 Enhances "Zanshin" effect
LV 72 SAM

That WOULD make ffxi ah a lot more "user friendly"

I like Woo's suggestion mainly because I prefer this page over Wiki for looking up information on single items. The only time I pull up a wiki article is if I want in-depth information about the item like how to acquire it or how to activate its latents, etc. I personally don't care about the ZNM items because, well, honestly, I can't obtain them, but the fact that almost every other weapon in the game is on the site and rather well organized, makes me wonder why the ZNM items aren't. There is no need to bash on him/her because they don't know what an item is off of just a general guess. With a name like that I would have thought Katana, G.Katana, or Polearm since I know Sam's might use Polearms. I'm sure I speak for a rather fair group of people when I state that we aren't elitists that can instantly decipher what an item is just off name and damage output.