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 Odin.Godofgods
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By Odin.Godofgods 2013-04-08 12:34:31
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Haven't seen any of these posted as of late. And with the release of seekers, i was curious. Whats everyone opinions now?
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-04-08 12:35:42
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Odin.Godofgods said: »
Haven't seen any of these posted as of late. And with the release of seekers, i was curious. Whats everyone opinions now?
Nothing has changed from current optimal TP sets.

Thurandaut gloves are a good alternative in some sets though.

Check out the first page on The Beast Within BLU guide
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By Lakshmi.Vlorsutes 2013-04-08 12:37:02
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I think, at the moment, the sets are the same as they were pre-update. The only big new item that might throw a wrench into it is the Thurandaut Chapeau, since if the Dual Wield on it is good enough, you'll want to adjust your TP set accordingly to make up for the loss of Haste in that slot.
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-04-08 12:38:01
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Lakshmi.Vlorsutes said: »
I think, at the moment, the sets are the same as they were pre-update. The only big new item that might throw a wrench into it is the Thauradant Chapeau, since if the Dual Wield on it is good enough, you'll want to adjust your TP set accordingly to make up for the loss of Haste in that slot.
Unfortunately, it's only 3% so it doesn't appear to have a place in the best sets.

For me, it's possible to throw into my sets capping haste in other slots.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2013-04-08 12:45:21
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Asura.Lokimaru said: »
Check out the first page on The Beast Within BLU guide

I didnt realize he updated that. Usualy im weary of looking at gear set suggestions posted almsot a year ago. I checked the last few pages of that thread without seeing much.
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-04-08 12:45:47
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Odin.Godofgods said: »
Asura.Lokimaru said: »
Check out the first page on The Beast Within BLU guide

I didnt realize he updated that. Usualy im weary of looking at gear set suggestions posted almsot a year ago. I checked the last few pages of that thread without seeing much.
It's usually kept up to date. '')b
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By Lakshmi.Vlorsutes 2013-04-08 12:55:42
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Asura.Lokimaru said: »
Lakshmi.Vlorsutes said: »
I think, at the moment, the sets are the same as they were pre-update. The only big new item that might throw a wrench into it is the Thauradant Chapeau, since if the Dual Wield on it is good enough, you'll want to adjust your TP set accordingly to make up for the loss of Haste in that slot.
Unfortunately, it's only 3% so it doesn't appear to have a place in the best sets.

For me, it's possible to throw into my sets capping haste in other slots.

Ahh, so it's been unlocked on other servers then. On mine we weren't able to unlock any of the additional pieces to those sets, and instead unlocked the Coalition weapons instead. Should have assumed that other servers had managed to do so, but wasn't sure.
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-04-08 13:44:25
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Lakshmi.Vlorsutes said: »
Asura.Lokimaru said: »
Lakshmi.Vlorsutes said: »
I think, at the moment, the sets are the same as they were pre-update. The only big new item that might throw a wrench into it is the Thauradant Chapeau, since if the Dual Wield on it is good enough, you'll want to adjust your TP set accordingly to make up for the loss of Haste in that slot.
Unfortunately, it's only 3% so it doesn't appear to have a place in the best sets.

For me, it's possible to throw into my sets capping haste in other slots.

Ahh, so it's been unlocked on other servers then. On mine we weren't able to unlock any of the additional pieces to those sets, and instead unlocked the Coalition weapons instead. Should have assumed that other servers had managed to do so, but wasn't sure.
I think it was only Carbuncle that unlocked armor?

Asura got weapons too.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-04-08 13:51:19
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The 3% DW thing is secondhand so yeah. Idk who tested it, but the numbers looked official as *** so I'm going with it.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-04-08 13:52:56
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Did we test it on the NA side? I've only seen the 2ch post referencing another post I couldn't find. JPs are lax on citations x_x
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By Odin.Creaucent 2013-04-08 14:17:31
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Odin.Godofgods said: »
Haven't seen any of these posted as of late. And with the release of seekers, i was curious. Whats everyone opinions now?

Idk why you are asking as all you use is 5/5 af3+2.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-04-08 14:55:12
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Generic set is this, 90 Almace and STR/Att Shikargar

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On High end content where Acc is an issue I use this, DEX ACC shikargar

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By Sylph.Peldin 2013-04-08 15:25:33
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Your generic ammo slot could be more useful.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-04-08 15:44:11
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Agreed, I use this for majority of things, some say use the Needle from Meebles, however I just don't like using it.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-08 15:51:19
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outside of solo rancor should beat portus, and cheruski needle if acc is capped.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-04-08 17:24:32
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Prothescar's note on portus and rancor:

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****Portus Collar is not a direct replacement for Rancor Collar. On high level targets or situations where attack is low, Rancor Collar is superior to Portus
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By Sylph.Peldin 2013-04-09 07:11:07
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Been a couple months since I played, but I thought there was an ammo item that gave +attack that was better for TP than Cheruski Needle. It has hidden attack to it. I have it but I haven't been on FFXI so I forgot the name. I'll check my profile and update post in a minute

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Here ya go. It's the Smart Grenade

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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-04-09 09:30:35
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I would just use cheruski, The difference between the two has to be really marginal especially if you aren't capping fStr or dDex.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-04-09 12:44:41
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Rancor collar may deal More damage, however due to the defence change, I would not state Rancor as being superior especially with the DMG taken +??% Seems like you're asking to get smacked fast and hard from a well placed crit for 700 dmg in Aldoulin (some mobs evasion allows the generic set to shine)

On weaker targets I agree Rancor is superior, I personally only ws in it as I usually solo as BLU as apposed to a full party support.
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By Leviathan.Dragonlord 2013-04-09 14:44:20
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Cerberus.Conagh said: »
DMG taken +??% Seems like you're asking to get smacked fast and hard from a well placed crit for 700 dmg in Aldoulin (some mobs evasion allows the generic set to shine)

On weaker targets I agree Rancor is superior, I personally only ws in it as I usually solo as BLU as apposed to a full party support.

The DMG taken is +10% when tonberry hate is capped. The thing with crit damage is the difference diminishes as your attack approaches 2.0 attack ratio (when your attack doubles the opponent's defense). One handed jobs can cap attack on fodder mobs fairly easily, so the crit doesn't add as much of a % to your damage (50% more when at cap). When attack is below cap, let's say at 1.0 attack ratio, the crit adds 1, therefore adding 100% to that attack's damage (before getting into pdif randomizations and other complications).

So, if you're soloing mobs that can hit you for 700, then obviously you wouldn't use this. But if you're in a competent group where hate is bouncing around, you should use it to maximize damage.
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By Ragnarok.Agerknux 2013-04-09 15:12:07
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Leviathan.Dragonlord said: »
Cerberus.Conagh said: »
DMG taken +??% Seems like you're asking to get smacked fast and hard from a well placed crit for 700 dmg in Aldoulin (some mobs evasion allows the generic set to shine)

On weaker targets I agree Rancor is superior, I personally only ws in it as I usually solo as BLU as apposed to a full party support.

The DMG taken is +10% when tonberry hate is capped. The thing with crit damage is the difference diminishes as your attack approaches 2.0 attack ratio (when your attack doubles the opponent's defense). One handed jobs can cap attack on fodder mobs fairly easily, so the crit doesn't add as much of a % to your damage (50% more when at cap). When attack is below cap, let's say at 1.0 attack ratio, the crit adds 1, therefore adding 100% to that attack's damage (before getting into pdif randomizations and other complications).

So, if you're soloing mobs that can hit you for 700, then obviously you wouldn't use this. But if you're in a competent group where hate is bouncing around, you should use it to maximize damage.

You forgot that 1h's ratio cap is 2.25!

And yes you are right, it is diminished as you increase your attack ratio. But even then critical hits benefit more to 1h than 2h because of the flat +1Ratio to crits. So you would really want more crit over double attack when mobs have higher def.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-09 16:22:27
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kinda all saying the same thing realy
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-04-10 10:09:21
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Basically if you have a competent healer and the targets can't do obscene damage moves to you then use Rancor Collar. If your soloing vs anything harder then a dynamic monster, tanking something big and nasty, or having a pants-on-head HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE healer, then don't use it.
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