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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-03-15 23:42:11
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Hi I have seen numerous references to winderlite, however I can't find it on Windower.net anyone know a direct link to download it from as full windower 4 and 3.4 dont run -

FFXI runs normally and in azariles windower 4.0 abandonded project.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-03-15 23:49:58
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If you're going to use windower lite you might as well just use SE windowed version.

I looked to try to provide you a link anyways but I can't find it.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2013-03-15 23:55:24
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Pretty sure the lite version was just left alone to rot after the official windower, as it basicly provides nothing anymore.
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2013-03-16 00:23:33
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Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Hi I have seen numerous references to winderlite, however I can't find it on Windower.net anyone know a direct link to download it from as full windower 4 and 3.4 dont run -

FFXI runs normally and in azariles windower 4.0 abandonded project.
Why?

Just because it is highly referenced doesn't mean you should use it.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-03-16 00:31:19
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Bismarck.Hsieh said: »
Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Hi I have seen numerous references to winderlite, however I can't find it on Windower.net anyone know a direct link to download it from as full windower 4 and 3.4 dont run -

FFXI runs normally and in azariles windower 4.0 abandonded project.
Why?

Just because it is highly referenced doesn't mean you should use it.
He said that he can't get 3.4 or 4 to run at all, so he was just looking for something that worked.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-03-16 09:58:19
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I wanted to see why Lite worked but 3.4 and 4 don't I was going to write a patch for windows 8 using lesser graphics cards that let FFXI run but not windower.

Espcially now windower 4 runs off lua it would be even easier to impliment as I am more proficient with lua than the old format 3.4 ran on.

It irritates me that FFXI, lite and ashita all work, but windower 3.4 and 4.0 do not. However I no longer have Lite and couldn't find a site to download it.
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By Leviathan.Matteh 2013-03-16 11:36:14
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http://ww38.windower.faservers.net/Windower-Lite.zip

got it from the official windower forums http://forums.windower.net/topic/10745-windower-lite-dl-not-working/
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-03-16 19:04:21
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The link doesn't take me anywhere near windower lite.

It does take me to fastserver where a "search" using it shows the forums you mentioned lol! But no where to download.

However my old harddrive had a copy on it (came to me in a dream.... pun intended), and now I have windower 4 running after seeing what was different from the files.

It was one stupid file that meant the graphics cards didn't link from windower to POL properly, which caused the display driver issue, replaced it from lite and fixed.

If anyone needs PM I'll supply the file, but I am still testing it doesn't have any critical errors.
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By Leviathan.Matteh 2013-03-16 19:15:38
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http://www.mediafire.com/ is a great sharing file service and free. I use it a lot to share game replays and saves =) and its forever atm =)
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By Siren.Ihm 2013-03-17 18:04:53
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You've made a patch for Windower v4 for Windower 8 O.o? It works on Windows 8 already. I'm kinda confused whats going on here.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-03-18 13:48:15
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I posted my issue with Windower 3.4 and 4.0 not working and crashing when I hit Play from Pol to load the full FFXI window - it crashes.

Ashita, windowerlite, azarils windower 4,0 Abandoned project and regular pol all run.

It is something with windower that is causing this issue ~

Dump report posted on Windower 4 Beta (No reply provided on issue or how to fix) despite being asked to post my dump report.

Numerous messages about this when I posted the fix, however this is no longer working.

Reverted back to original install of Windower 4.0 re did dump report from scratch posted below.

If you find a fix let me know, but dont say it works on all windows 8 when it doesn't. It might be a hardware issue, but why do other version work properly?
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-03-18 13:48:39
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plus the 11 messages I got asking for how I did it, saying they cant get it to work also support this.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-03-18 14:21:08
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Crash report I had that went unasnwered ~

Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.2.9200.16384 X86
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

*** wait with pending attach
Symbol search path is: *** Invalid ***
****************************************************************************
* Symbol loading may be unreliable without a symbol search path. *
* Use .symfix to have the debugger choose a symbol path. *
* After setting your symbol path, use .reload to refresh symbol locations. *
****************************************************************************
Executable search path is:
ModLoad: 00400000 005a0000 C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\PlayOnlineViewer\pol.exe
ModLoad: 77ab0000 77c07000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
ModLoad: 77050000 77180000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\KERNEL32.DLL
ModLoad: 76a80000 76b26000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\KERNELBASE.dll
ModLoad: 74d80000 74e27000 C:\windows\system32\apphelp.dll
ModLoad: 64dc0000 65030000 C:\windows\AppPatch\AcLayers.DLL
ModLoad: 766d0000 76781000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\msvcrt.dll
ModLoad: 774e0000 775f6000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\USER32.dll
ModLoad: 76850000 7694d000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\GDI32.dll
ModLoad: 75600000 766c6000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\SHELL32.dll
ModLoad: 76f60000 76fa0000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\SHLWAPI.dll
ModLoad: 77180000 7720b000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\OLEAUT32.dll
ModLoad: 74b30000 74b43000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\MPR.dll
ModLoad: 75450000 755ff000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\SETUPAPI.dll
ModLoad: 64db0000 64db3000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\sfc.dll
ModLoad: 741e0000 74240000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\WINSPOOL.DRV
ModLoad: 76b30000 76bdc000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\RPCRT4.dll
ModLoad: 77820000 77956000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\combase.dll
ModLoad: 77620000 77666000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\CFGMGR32.dll
ModLoad: 76f40000 76f5e000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\DEVOBJ.dll
ModLoad: 75150000 7516c000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\SspiCli.dll
ModLoad: 64da0000 64dae000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\sfc_os.DLL
ModLoad: 75140000 75149000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\CRYPTBASE.dll
ModLoad: 77010000 77044000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll
ModLoad: 750e0000 75131000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\bcryptPrimitives.dll
ModLoad: 64b50000 64d94000 C:\windows\AppPatch\AcGenral.DLL
ModLoad: 74630000 746b8000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\UxTheme.dll
ModLoad: 74c50000 74c71000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\WINMM.dll
ModLoad: 6eb80000 6eb92000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\samcli.dll
ModLoad: 75170000 75289000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\ole32.dll
ModLoad: 64b30000 64b44000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\MSACM32.dll
ModLoad: 746f0000 746f8000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\VERSION.dll
ModLoad: 74b50000 74b6b000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\USERENV.dll
ModLoad: 74b10000 74b29000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\dwmapi.dll
ModLoad: 76950000 76a6e000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\urlmon.dll
ModLoad: 76cd0000 76d7e000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\ADVAPI32.dll
ModLoad: 74890000 748ba000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\WINMMBASE.dll
ModLoad: 74860000 74871000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\profapi.dll
ModLoad: 77680000 7781a000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\iertutil.dll
ModLoad: 76d80000 76f37000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\WININET.dll
ModLoad: 747e0000 74855000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\SHCORE.DLL
ModLoad: 76790000 767b0000 C:\windows\system32\IMM32.DLL
ModLoad: 77210000 772ed000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\MSCTF.dll
ModLoad: 10000000 10010000 C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\PlayOnlineViewer\PolHook.dll
ModLoad: 74b70000 74c49000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\DDRAW.dll
ModLoad: 74880000 74887000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\DCIMAN32.dll
ModLoad: 024d0000 0277f000 C:\Program Files (x86)\Windower4\Hook.dll
ModLoad: 76c80000 76cd0000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\WS2_32.dll
ModLoad: 76a70000 76a76000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\PSAPI.DLL
ModLoad: 76be0000 76be8000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\NSI.dll
ModLoad: 64b00000 64b30000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\dinput8.dll
ModLoad: 649f0000 64af1000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\d3d8.dll
ModLoad: 649e0000 649e7000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\d3d8thk.dll
ModLoad: 767d0000 76844000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\clbcatq.dll
ModLoad: 741a0000 741df000 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\POWRPROF.dll
ModLoad: 74f90000 74faa000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\CRYPTSP.dll
ModLoad: 74f50000 74f8e000 C:\windows\system32\rsaenh.dll
ModLoad: 64980000 6498a000 C:\windows\system32\winbrand.dll
ModLoad: 6d210000 6d294000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\dsound.dll
ModLoad: 649d0000 649d8000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\msiltcfg.dll
ModLoad: 748c0000 74b0e000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\msi.dll
ModLoad: 74360000 74557000 C:\windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.9200.16384_none_893961408605e985\Comctl32.dll
ModLoad: 032c0000 03711000 C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\PlayOnlineViewer\viewer\com\polcoreEU.dll
ModLoad: 6d160000 6d16a000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\HID.DLL
ModLoad: 75400000 75443000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\WINTRUST.dll
ModLoad: 77350000 774d8000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\CRYPT32.dll
ModLoad: 77600000 77612000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\MSASN1.dll
ModLoad: 03820000 0439e000 C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\PlayOnlineViewer\viewer\com\appEU.dll
ModLoad: 74790000 747b0000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\IPHLPAPI.DLL
ModLoad: 746e0000 746e8000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\WINNSI.DLL
ModLoad: 6a960000 6b3fb000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\igdumd32.dll
ModLoad: 6a880000 6a956000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\D3DIM700.DLL
ModLoad: 6e8d0000 6e91d000 C:\windows\System32\MMDevApi.dll
ModLoad: 6e870000 6e8c4000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\AUDIOSES.DLL
ModLoad: 70ec0000 70ed2000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\dhcpcsvc.DLL
ModLoad: 6c1e0000 6c1e8000 C:\windows\SYSTEM32\avrt.dll
(58.904): Break instruction exception - code 80000003 (first chance)
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for C:\windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll -
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for C:\windows\SYSTEM32\KERNEL32.DLL -
eax=7ffda000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=77b4dc83 esi=00000000 edi=00000000
eip=77ade08c esp=02c5ff58 ebp=02c5ff84 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na pe nc
cs=0023 ss=002b ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00000246
ntdll!DbgBreakPoint:
77ade08c cc int 3
0:012> g
ModLoad: 70ee0000 70ef0000 C:\windows\SysWOW64\dhcpcsvc6.DLL
ModLoad: 70ea0000 70eb0000 C:\windows\SysWOW64\napinsp.dll
ModLoad: 70e10000 70e24000 C:\windows\SysWOW64\pnrpnsp.dll
ModLoad: 70ef0000 70f00000 C:\windows\SysWOW64\NLAapi.dll
ModLoad: 74f00000 74f4a000 C:\windows\SysWOW64\mswsock.dll
ModLoad: 74e80000 74ef5000 C:\windows\SysWOW64\DNSAPI.dll
ModLoad: 70e00000 70e09000 C:\windows\SysWOW64\winrnr.dll
ModLoad: 70df0000 70e00000 C:\windows\SysWOW64\wshbth.dll
ModLoad: 74e30000 74e6f000 C:\windows\SysWOW64\fwpuclnt.dll
ModLoad: 74e70000 74e77000 C:\Windows\SysWOW64\rasadhlp.dll
ModLoad: 6faf0000 6fb90000 C:\windows\SysWOW64\sxs.dll
ModLoad: 02420000 0244b000 C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI\FFXi.dll
ModLoad: 03820000 0431d000 C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI\FFXiMain.dll
ModLoad: 6fae0000 6fae6000 C:\windows\SysWOW64\dpnhpast.dll
ModLoad: 02ba0000 02bb6000 C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI\ImeUiDll.dll
ModLoad: 02ee0000 02ef2000 C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI\ImeUiDll2.dll
ModLoad: 6f050000 6faeb000 C:\windows\SysWOW64\igdumd32.dll
(58.340): Access violation - code c0000005 (first chance)
First chance exceptions are reported before any exception handling.
This exception may be expected and handled.
*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI\FFXiMain.dll
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI\FFXiMain.dll -
eax=022d0b70 ebx=02bc6e00 ecx=022d2f08 edx=005e0690 esi=02e3aa30 edi=0018ee70
eip=06010007 esp=0018ed4c ebp=00000556 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=0023 ss=002b ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00210202
06010007 ?? ???
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By Quetzalcoatl.Iryoku 2013-03-22 09:21:25
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He never said it worked on all Windows 8 PCs, it doesn't even work on all Windows 7 PCs and we'll freely admit that. It does work on the vast majority of Windows 8 PCs, however.

You do clearly have a legitimate bug, though, and we will try to fix it if we can. However, that's not a crash dump; it's a WinDbg log, and it's essencially useless for the purposes of tracking down the cause of the crash. To create a mini dump you need to use the following command from the WinDbg command console: .dump /m filename.dmp
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