Heavy Strike Sets |
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Heavy Strike sets
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: » Starkzz said: » LS be doing Pil tomorrow, anything to note 'bout it? hows his hp/def/eva? like, if kinda low-man, him spamming this shield and not gettin' steady procs can result in an easy timeout? shield interests me though, sounds like it'll be a fun fight (I know I wasn't :P) Then the blue skill argument is invalid I guess.
oh >.> meh, thought it did. Well, just throw up some acc gears then I guess
But guys, Starkzz obviously knows more about this than we do, his heavy Strikes are super accurate!
Starkzz said: » hows his hp/def/eva? like, if kinda low-man, him spamming this shield and not gettin' steady procs can result in an easy timeout? shield interests me though, sounds like it'll be a fun fight You got it son
Would sword skill pieces help with the accuracy (AF3 head, Fort Torque, Suppa, etc)?
Main hand accuracy. So long as it's a sword you have equipped then yes.
Ragnarok.Agerknux said: » I haven't been able to play around with blu's heavy strike lately, but I'm trying to build a set around it. The thing is I don't know how inaccurate it is and how much I should balance str vs acc. This is my current set, or rather a set that kind of has a balance of both. Head: AF+2 Head? Got the acc or leave it for CA? Body: AF+1 Body or Loki's? Obviously Toci would be a good replacement, but that's something that isn't exactly readily available. Hands: Heafoc would've been here if it wasn't for the -acc Neck: Ziel is probably something I'd look into Back: Aife looks solid, but don't know where to get now, cuch for balance or stick with Potentia/Vigilance +1 Feet: Chose denali because of str/acc Ears: ??????? It looks good dude. i would say, Keep your brutal earring on (im assuming you have 1) The ear1 you have is nice, but that wont make an big difference, but Phys spells can double attack and keep in mind we can set Triple attack as well. (/war + Brutal + Atheling mantle + Agrona's Leggings = 20%). AF2 for CA as you mentioned, the bonnet is a good piece, but try to look into Anwig Salade with Str4 Dex4Crit dmg 2%. With my current set testing it in Abyssea Ule (havent had the luxury to take it to VW yet) and /war my Strikes range between 3k raw and 6k with CA and Efflux. (high 6850) but your set is really nice Though. keep up the good work! anyway this is what I'm using right now:
maybe too much acc but I'd rather have less chance to miss than higher dmg. suggestions? Autoshot said: » It looks good dude. i would say, Keep your brutal earring on (im assuming you have 1) The ear1 you have is nice, but that wont make an big difference, but Phys spells can double attack and keep in mind we can set Triple attack as well. (/war + Brutal + Atheling mantle + Agrona's Leggings = 20%). AF2 for CA as you mentioned, the bonnet is a good piece, but try to look into Anwig Salade with Str4 Dex4Crit dmg 2%. With my current set testing it in Abyssea Ule (havent had the luxury to take it to VW yet) and /war my Strikes range between 3k raw and 6k with CA and Efflux. (high 6850) but your set is really nice Though. keep up the good work! Quote: 1) The ear1 you have is nice, but that wont make an big difference, but Phys spells can double attack and keep in mind we can set Triple attack as well. Uh...
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Well, anyway...
Blue magic skill is 447 and sword is 401 so I don't really have an acc problem. And yeah yeah, I need a pyrosoul ring. But I'm really not seeing this low acc problem with Heavy Strike. It wiffs about as much as Cannonball use to when that was the main HNM spell and you were casting it while SA was down. >_> Also idk why Perdu is still there... >.> Though I did love it at a time :< SKILL DOES NOT EFFECT PHYSICAL BLUE MAGIC ACCURACY
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Lakshmi.Eyrhika said: » SKILL DOES NOT EFFECT PHYSICAL BLUE MAGIC ACCURACY Wikipedia said: Blue Magic Skill determines the damage rating (D-rating) of physical Blue Magic. This damage rating caps approximately 15 levels above the level of the spell. No cap has been determined for spells learned at level 60 or later. Also it's STR/DEX+5. Is it really that bad of a body?
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Bahamut.Mizuharu said: » Well, anyway... Blue magic skill is 447 and sword is 401 so I don't really have an acc problem. And yeah yeah, I need a pyrosoul ring. But I'm really not seeing this low acc problem with Heavy Strike. edit: considering heavy strikes autocrits I'd say loki's has a little more advantage than 5 str and 15 skill but I don't know, I'm calling out somebody more experienced than me on blu to give us an idea. Also he was mentioning blue skill in the accuracy part of his reasoning. Lakshmi.Eyrhika said: » SKILL DOES NOT EFFECT PHYSICAL BLUE MAGIC ACCURACY Oh he mad Quite. :< Seriously though, if skill affects the damage, and the spell has a STR and/or DEX mod, I don't see what's so horrible about AF+1 body. Maybe he just needs a song to get him out of this slump! If he's still mad after listening to this, then there's no hope for him. :/
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omfg so legendary LOL
Okay, so wanted to try dmg comparison for Loki vs AF+1 body using the current item set I posted before. Did 10 casts on Heavy Strike on Evil Eyes (I'm waiting on abyssea cooldown atm since I d/ced in there last night).
AF+1 Body: 1467 1308 1526 1468 1350 1469 1524 1361 1514 1461 Average: 1444 (144.8) Loki 1415 1521 1368 1552 1518 1368 1530 1557 1509 1415 Average: 1475 (1475.8) I'm sure someone will find this test to be useless since on TW mobs, so I'll do some testing on bluffalos soon. EDIT- What atmas do people want me to use? >.> Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said: » RR/SS/Apoc. Using RR/SS/MM atm that okay? Also, they con T low eva to me. Just making sure this is okay lol Okay! So...
Area: Abyssea - Uleguerand Monster: Bluffalo (all con T low EVA) Blue Magic skill: 447(AF+1); 432 (Loki) Sword: 401 Atmas: RR/SS/MM STR: 93+125(AF+1)/120(Loki) DEX: 78+149(AF+1)/155(Loki) Spells set: Head Butt Hysteric Barrage Disseverment Vanity Dive Benthic Typhoon Quad. Continuum Heavy Strike Sudden Lunge Animating Wail Occultation Cocoon Barrier Tusk Regurgitation Magic Fruit Actinic Burst Battery Charge Winds of Promy. Dream Flower Damage_________________ AF+1 1661 1892 1683 1581 1734 1522 1827 1854 1648 1435 Wiff: 2 Average: 1683 (1683.7) Loki 1857 1617 1769 1630 1461 1611 1908 1667 1414 1854 Wiff: 3 Average: 1678 (1678.8) AF+1 did an average of 5 more damage than Lokis for me. Bahamut.Mizuharu said: » Autoshot said: » It looks good dude. i would say, Keep your brutal earring on (im assuming you have 1) The ear1 you have is nice, but that wont make an big difference, but Phys spells can double attack and keep in mind we can set Triple attack as well. (/war + Brutal + Atheling mantle + Agrona's Leggings = 20%). AF2 for CA as you mentioned, the bonnet is a good piece, but try to look into Anwig Salade with Str4 Dex4Crit dmg 2%. With my current set testing it in Abyssea Ule (havent had the luxury to take it to VW yet) and /war my Strikes range between 3k raw and 6k with CA and Efflux. (high 6850) but your set is really nice Though. keep up the good work! Quote: 1) The ear1 you have is nice, but that wont make an big difference, but Phys spells can double attack and keep in mind we can set Triple attack as well. Uh... Dont feel bad, a lot of people dont know. Autoshot said: » Bahamut.Mizuharu said: » Autoshot said: » It looks good dude. i would say, Keep your brutal earring on (im assuming you have 1) The ear1 you have is nice, but that wont make an big difference, but Phys spells can double attack and keep in mind we can set Triple attack as well. (/war + Brutal + Atheling mantle + Agrona's Leggings = 20%). AF2 for CA as you mentioned, the bonnet is a good piece, but try to look into Anwig Salade with Str4 Dex4Crit dmg 2%. With my current set testing it in Abyssea Ule (havent had the luxury to take it to VW yet) and /war my Strikes range between 3k raw and 6k with CA and Efflux. (high 6850) but your set is really nice Though. keep up the good work! Quote: 1) The ear1 you have is nice, but that wont make an big difference, but Phys spells can double attack and keep in mind we can set Triple attack as well. Uh... Dont feel bad, a lot of people dont know. Since when and explain/prove how. Always been that way with Physical Spells. Just go try it for yourself, then tell me im dumb.
Never called you dumb, but we can't have you being wrong on everything, so...
There isn't a way to tell if a spell double attacks. You don't get TP from it. And any damage spike could be any number of things... And, even though they get an accuracy check, they are still SPELLS. |
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