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 Carbuncle.Cardinalgate
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By Carbuncle.Cardinalgate 2011-09-19 23:37:23
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is it true this new JA only applies to the new spells?
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By Inuyasha 2011-09-19 23:43:29
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yea, it only applies to Thunderbolt and Harden Shell...the name is also wrong... "Unbridled Knowledge" on test server...and on announcements
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2011-09-19 23:44:15
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Only applies to the (new) HNM class spells. You must use the JA to gain access to the spells, and it's one spell only per JA use.

The name was changed because they couldn't fit the name on the tooltip list.
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By Carbuncle.Cardinalgate 2011-09-20 00:10:10
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this makes me sad
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By Valefor.Pairak 2011-09-20 00:17:45
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do you still need to learn the spell first and set them? Or do you get instanty access to them when using this JA?
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-09-20 00:25:56
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You have to learn the spell first, don't have to set it.
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2011-09-20 00:36:58
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What are the easiest targets for those? The Abyssea Tahrongi (non-Lacovie/non-Chukwa) mini-adamantoise do Harden Shell right? Or just NM versions of that family?

For Behemoths, maybe (random) Nyzul Isle 20 floor boss or Limbus Apollyon behemoths? On second thought Gudanna, the level 50 FOV augment (pop-able) behemoth is probably simplest instead?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-09-20 00:39:17
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Abyssea turtles do use Harden Shell. FoV behemoth is easiest that I know of provided you have tabs, don't know if there are any NQ behemoth out there. I plan on trying Limbus since I'm completely out of tabs.

EDIT: T3 Voidwatch NM is a joke if you feel like burning some stones and he spams the hell out of Thunderbolt.
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By Inuyasha 2011-09-20 00:39:57
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now all they need to do is add Blue Mage Composure and we'll be alright for an eternity of 1 lvl away from the real thing~

but yea, Harden Shell is easily learned from the Thalasilons in tahronghi....and most people have been poping Hadhayosh for Thunderbolt
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-09-20 00:40:19
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Yes if you have tabs the FOV one is easy but keep in mind his HP is extremely low, like tier1 nukes from /blm will take off 2% HP lol.
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2011-09-20 00:42:28
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Updated title. :)
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-09-20 00:43:46
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The original title was correct, it's Unbridled Learning.
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2011-09-20 00:44:55
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FFFfffuuu.

Thanks ._.
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By Inuyasha 2011-09-20 00:45:01
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Yes if you have tabs the FOV one is easy but keep in mind his HP is extremely low, like tier1 nukes from /blm will take off 2% HP lol.
so dont spam Goblin Rush or QC for TP :| no fun :|
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By Sylph.Binckry 2011-09-20 01:18:55
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Abyssea turtles do use Harden Shell. FoV behemoth is easiest that I know of provided you have tabs, don't know if there are any NQ behemoth out there. I plan on trying Limbus since I'm completely out of tabs.

EDIT: T3 Voidwatch NM is a joke if you feel like burning some stones and he spams the hell out of Thunderbolt.
Quick question, what's a good strat for this guy? o.0
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-09-20 01:36:53
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Sylph.Binckry said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Abyssea turtles do use Harden Shell. FoV behemoth is easiest that I know of provided you have tabs, don't know if there are any NQ behemoth out there. I plan on trying Limbus since I'm completely out of tabs.

EDIT: T3 Voidwatch NM is a joke if you feel like burning some stones and he spams the hell out of Thunderbolt.
Quick question, what's a good strat for this guy? o.0
I've tanked it on NIN in a pinch, MNK works too. Curse spikes kind of suck for both jobs, but Fool's Drink can cover a lot of that. PLD and BLU work as well, neither needs to melee for hate obviously. Bring a MDT kit, don't take forever to kill, should never run into problems with Meteor.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2011-09-20 02:20:05
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Ragnarok.Anye said: »
FFFfffuuu.

Thanks ._.

you still made me laugh! :]
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-09-20 02:23:48
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Yeah, his meteor is not as bad as people make it out to be. Also, he does not normally cast meteor like KB, only does it after thunderbolt.
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By Carbuncle.Cardinalgate 2011-09-20 02:39:06
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Ragnarok.Anye said: »
FFFfffuuu.

Thanks ._.

you done goofed :P
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2011-09-22 18:05:12
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Does the Kronprinz Behemoth in NW Apollyon use Thunderbolt? Also has anyone successfully learned Thunderbolt from Gudanna yet?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-09-22 18:07:14
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Yes the behemoths in Apollyon use thunderbolt.
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By Carbuncle.Cardinalgate 2011-09-22 18:24:08
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gonna try to put together a limbus group to get that
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2011-09-22 18:30:36
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Think a 95 NIN and BLU could kill those Behemoths? It's been a while since I've done any limbus.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-09-22 18:35:01
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BLU can solo it, NIN+BLU shouldn't have any problems.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-09-22 18:51:18
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Bahamut.Bojack said: »
Think a 95 NIN and BLU could kill those Behemoths? It's been a while since I've done any limbus.
Easily. Meteor will always be interrupted by melee attacks, nothing else they do is all that threatening, and they're 75 cap mobs so you'll have no trouble with shadows.
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By Shiva.Biglen 2011-09-26 08:40:46
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Bahamut.Bojack said: »
Does the Kronprinz Behemoth in NW Apollyon use Thunderbolt? Also has anyone successfully learned Thunderbolt from Gudanna yet?

I have done this for last few days and I don't even know if you can learn from this guy we popped with a full party of blue mages. We feed it tp till it did the move and then destroyed it and with 6 blu 5 times (one didn't do the move) no one learned and then the next day with 3 more pops 2 blu did not learn it as well. We are second guessing if you can learn from this NM at one point we just want someone to learn don't even care if it's me at this point . . .

Thinking Limbus as the best bet don't really want to farm 4 KI for behemoth in La Thiene just to not learn it . . .
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By Sylph.Aleeanne 2011-09-26 08:56:42
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well I actually learned Thunderbolt while doing a Nyzul Isle run. Myself and 3 other blu's went and did this. I was one of 2 ppl out of the group to learn it on that run. But he was a joke. Was on the floor 40 run and we got really that Behemonth was our boss for that floor.
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By Shiva.Biglen 2011-09-26 12:03:16
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Sylph.Aleeanne said: »
well I actually learned Thunderbolt while doing a Nyzul Isle run. Myself and 3 other blu's went and did this. I was one of 2 ppl out of the group to learn it on that run. But he was a joke. Was on the floor 40 run and we got really that Behemonth was our boss for that floor.

/wrist with envy
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By Ragnarok.Croex 2011-09-26 12:42:10
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Bahamut.Bojack said: »
Does the Kronprinz Behemoth in NW Apollyon use Thunderbolt? Also has anyone successfully learned Thunderbolt from Gudanna yet?

I got it from Gudanna standing at max range (40+), while 2 BST killed it quite easy.

Hope it helps!
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By Siren.Inuyushi 2011-09-26 12:50:34
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Bahamut.Bojack said: »
Think a 95 NIN and BLU could kill those Behemoths? It's been a while since I've done any limbus.
Easily. Meteor will always be interrupted by melee attacks, nothing else they do is all that threatening, and they're 75 cap mobs so you'll have no trouble with shadows.

RDM/BLM Can solo that zone. The mini's don't cast only the big guy does. I never fed the mini's enough TP to do a move but the boss preferred his kick move over Thunderbolt (I never saw thunderbolt out of his 4 TP moves)
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