SE Should Make ALL NM Force Pop

having to look 1 min every 30 mins doesnt bother me much.Camping a NM like SandWorm or Dark Ixion that kills me.But i think that the 5h of scan worth the result.

Well force popping NM's could work out in a way. Take a look at ZNM's. Just make em tedious to pop and not that many people would do em. xP

/em ♥'s doing SW with Vaness. >.>

Haha me too :p

I have yet to have the pleasure/displeasure of camping/killing SW/DI. Really though, I don't mind the way they currently have things done. I'd rather sit there and do other things 99% of the time during the window than farm and constantly be killing mobs for 3 hours. Unless they give good xp and ya could get 10k+ xp/hr there. Even then... I really hate xp'ing/meriting... So, I'm glad they haven't made plans to revamp Land Kings.

O.oa Your de-rail pic fails! I agreed, therefore I kept with the topic of the thread. Just added a side note that I thought she was attractive. >.> Now, shoo Troll! This is serious thread for serious business talking about NM spawns!

Nothing more serious then Train, Woman and HNMS...GO FFXI GO!

you smelly.

Im still reading the thread so if this already has been answerd then awesome.

Making a mob that pops like 2-3hrs for a low drops would prolly be the best way. And people do this for sky and there LS's for the gods sky and sea, people will always camp for items but i agree with barrd it needs to be a little easier.

I camp HNMs and im always seeing botters claiming, a good example is the other day i was camping Behe, i was dual boxing my brother which was on nin. He popped i targetted him but my voke wasnt working then 3 secs later someone from acroos the field gets him and pulls him there. Fair? nope.

I have seen this argument go off again and again im sorry but screw beating the dead horse how about I beat some SE devs so they can fix the 99999999999999999999999x flaws they haven't bothering fixing?

Sorry but it really Irritates me when people use that as an excuse

"new tank SE?"

reply:
"nuuuuuu stop beating da dead horse dooooooood"

>.>

LL is enough of an explanation. I hate that lizard so much I wish the next time I kill it it would die forever. I can see why most Lvl 75 statics go for Simurgh now.

I must say tho, With Valkrum Emperor, I have helped 3 people in ls get claim.. and I've been liek either 1st drop or 2nd, so I didn't have to camp it long.. and I did it between 11p.m - 3 A.M. EST, so I guess you just need some quiet time, and the Peeps who need it need to stay up.

Going to get the same 3 for Lizzy, I haven't camped her in 2.5 yrs.. should be interesting.... 2 ph's... if its not one, its the other...</laugh>

Oh man, I wanted a Beast Slayer so bad, but once I read all that ZNM ***, forget it, rofl.

I personally would remove this lottery stuff and make it all timed, shorter times. I don't mind maybe one hour repops, but ***like 4hs+ is just lame.

Dammit hase cheesy is like probably in the top 3 easiest ZNMs to low man!!!
I still wanna make kiri forced pop...

Even if it wasn't all item pop what would be nice is if the correct placeholder's death made the NM pop to your claim. Similar to how Despot works.

harhar?
gogogo ranger, you *** cant beat me.

Maybe it boils down to bang for buck.

People pay a pretty nice chunk every month to play the game.

Should they not get what they pay for?

nobody pays to be aggravated and ungeared so to speak.

If you pay 15-20 bucks a month and put in the work, you wanna see some results. not empty drops or over camps.

Just a thought.

Everytime theyve done that theyve lowered the droprates so horrendously its pretty much worse

well making them force pop will make the game better for the ppl that can't play 24/7 aka= 90% of players

and make the game more fun to play

An event should be planned by player and the game should offer it to you. With this in mind, I would split FFXI in 3 Categories...
"Awesome event",
"Great event but Its sad to have planned and have to cancel"
"... event : Would be nice if i could try it/They lucky to have nice drop potential or they would forever rot"

"Awesome event"
KSNM,AANM,SNM,BCNM,WSNM,Random Quest,Random Mission, Nyzul, Assault... - Great event, no need to plan too much ahead,
gather your friend, win or lose, enjoy your play time.

"Great event, but Its sad to have planned and have to cancel"
Dynamis Limbus Einherjar, ZNM... - Good event ...if another shell goes in before you, you actually have to make your crew wait for it,
waiting in a game ain't fun. you pay to play, not to wait...

"Would be nice if I could try it/They have nice drop potential or they would forever rot"
HNM, Kings, Dragons, etc,
Depending on how many hours you play a week, they goes
from "do they exist?"
to "a sentinel is needed to watch when the monster will be ready to welcome your team to try for it,
followed by a race to gather your people."

These type of monster ruins the game, people will wait them for hours depending on their windows.
So a message to casual player : Forget them.

Possible solution :

I think it would be nice if each player could use an "Once per account annual tag" to pop the HNM of their choice.
A linkshell made of 10-15 person could pop 10-15 NM of their choice per year instead of simply farming the time of death for everything in the game and battle for it, which could still be operationnal.

The old method could still work, but once a year, you could "force it"

How many never fought Fafnir, Behemoth, Adamantoise, Roc, etc....lets alone say the HQ version of them....Why didn't you??
Now how many of the same HNM you saw, but couldn't fight because you didn't get claim...now this is the *** part.
And how many of the same HNM did you try, lost, and couldn't adjust and retry because someone else got it.
Did you want to retry after this? Are you retired of HNM? Or do you master them all because of the unlimited hours of time you can play...

Personnaly I don't do HNM. Sure I would like to see what the game has to offer at 100%.
But there is still a lot of stuff that FFXI has to offers. I'd rather repeat some dynamis or limbus, to simply lose an evening waiting for an HNM to show up...
I play the game for the challenge, not for the rarity of the challenge to occurs...

Force pop everything by having to farm pop item , maybe/ maybe not...
Give a chance to everyone to try what the game have to offer. Totally, yes...

All I'm hearing is make this force pop so xxx people can kill because they don't have time to do it and whatnot.

The 90% your talking about that doesn't have time to play the game is the same people that tank in adaman body, melee in full str, and have no knowledge of basic game mechanics and make it by on a 1k income. You expect these people to take on fafnir? I promise you it wouldn't last all but 5mins before some HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE thf or /thf DD SA's from the back and pulls hate or the adaman body pld tanks in the face. I'll be damned if I see a 0% haste war meleeing in ohat mainhanding ridill with an axe and rockin str rings eating Jack-o-lanterns since he can't afford sushi.

You want to kill all these big bad monsters and get all this amazing gear. Then build your character up and get some background knowledge on all the mobs, make relations with some linkshell leaders or sacks, then go and apply. After that if you want, toss $20 down and buy app. Don't go pull the excuse saying I can't afford $20 for a bot program. If you can't afford to toss $20 then you shouldn't be playing.

Still trying to figure out who in this thread has actually camped a HNM outside of Roc, Simurgh, and the impossible to kill Leaping Lizzy. But go on, I'm sure all of you know what its like to camp for 3hrs and lose claim or the hilarity that insues when a Fafnir starts running circles around the area or a raged Nidhogg starts dropping loads on everyone. And the NQ Plds that stand still while KB is casting.

*** like you ruined the game, and have no consideration for the people who have kids and demanding jobs, yet still want time for themselves. Live and learn, not everyone has three hours to camp a HNM every single day.

inb4noobnvrtnkdsht. 75 PLD, tanked it all. I stand by my first sentance and I'm sure most people will agree. Want to be leetist? Go ahead. Feel good about your life for being good at a MMO. Whatever helps your life find meaning, mate.

WATCH YO KIDS AND STOP PLAYIN ***

See bold text.

Remember that 18hr PW? I'm sure everyone there had kids and a demanding job. They wanted to kill it, if you really wanted something or something done then your gonna have to put that time into it. Everyone posting here is basically asking for another way to get these items.

I said on the last page they added enough ways to obtain king Abjs. outside of the original Kings. And other items to be in the same teir as the king Abjs. Einherjar takes 30mins to do, without counting the gather time. Salvage is 100mins long and it requires 6people minimum. If you really don't have time for either these events then you have really shouldn't be playing this game. This is not a casual player game, sure there are events which you can solo or do with 2-3 people, but if you want more rewards your going to have put more time into it. Needless to say the ones complaining are quite possibly the ones that sit in WG all day talking in /shout then complaining because they can't do xxx event but they don't have xxx time.

Did they kill it?



You're so totally right... oh wait, it's capped at two hours now!



Yeah, your last post was all about Faf/Behemoth. Should have mentioned this then. HNM != Einherjar, Salvage, Limbus, whatever.



Contradiction, much?

1) No.
2) PW is capped at 2hrs and people have killed but back then it wasn't and they wanted to kill it. Even though like I said, they didn't at the time.
3) My post on the last page is talking about people wanting the Abjs. from kings but didn't have time to kill them or didn't want to bot or whatever odd reason. I was stating other ways to gain the same gear or gear on the same teir as kings.
4) Whats contridicting? Me saying this not a casual player game and then saying there are events that you can do with 2-3 people? Read more into the sentence. Bigger rewards = more time put into in the game.

FFXI has a reputation of being a massive timesink, moreso than possibly any modern MMO to date (EQ being perhaps the only exception). Perhaps it's time to play another game or quit all together if you really have to work so many hours that you lack the free time to fully enjoy the game. I wouldn't even be playing a game like this if I ever committed to having kids.

Some of us don't have "demanding" jobs where we're forced to work 60+ hours a week. Hell, even while attending university with an internship I have more than enough time to camp a Fafnir for 2-3 hours a day or do that Limbus/Einherjar event.

Yes and since these people have a life they should also be allowed to buy gil since they have no time to farm.