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 Bismarck.Barrd
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-16 16:31:15
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all the land king and new NM to pop with pop items give other linkshell a shot at pop land king
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I definitely wish NM's were force-pop.

Or, all NM act like Despot. >.> Kill PH = auto-claim ftw.
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By Asura.Endelig 2009-04-16 16:34:04
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Or no?
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By Phoenix.Jahaudant 2009-04-16 16:34:15
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Barrd said:
all the land king and new NM to pop with pop items give other linkshell a shot at pop land king


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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-16 16:34:22
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cant do that then thay will bot the place holder

and lol y not ppl that dont bot shude have a shot to
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-04-16 16:37:08
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So everyone can camp the pop item instead? There's a solution...
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By Kujata.Houshisama 2009-04-16 16:37:52
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This is dumb. gtfo.
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By Odin.Aramina 2009-04-16 16:38:14
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Mostly the people who seem to hate this idea are the people who have invested a ton of time camping them the old-fashioned way. Maybe not make the same old mobs all force-pop, but ZNM is basically force-pop, as are ANNM.

Hopefully they keep adding new things of the sort, while maintaining some of the purity of the originals. Heck, wouldn't it be a slap in the nuts if they added like 1% chance that King would pop for your Nyzul Boss... I'd just about stroke if I got to F20 and was staring down Nidhogg, because you'd have no clue what to expect as far as drops (maybe a PUP weapon?). It'll never happen, but it'd be good for shock value.

As much as I'd love a Defending Ring or M.Body, I pretty much have accepted I'll never have either.
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-16 16:39:00
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i say like ulli pop item hard to get and high lvl mob low drop rate
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By Bahamut.Danagon 2009-04-16 16:39:12
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bad things happening here >_> even if they did do this wanna kill 1k mobs for 1 faf pop item?
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-16 16:41:35
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ya that what i saying more of a luck thing them a bot thing

luck > bot yes plz
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By Bahamut.Danagon 2009-04-16 16:43:27
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Barrd said:
ya that what i saying more of a luck thing them a bot thing

luck > bot yes plz

yeah but 5 bots or so camping the pop items? <_<
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-16 16:44:56
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but mob will be high lvl mob 1 man solo will not work for that and mob shude be overwelming
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-04-16 16:46:02
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Danagon said:
Barrd said:
ya that what i saying more of a luck thing them a bot thing

luck > bot yes plz

yeah but 5 bots or so camping the pop items? <_<


Exactly, make NM's force pop with item means everyone will just camp the mobs. Look at how overcamped the mobs were for the ACP ***, perfect example.
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By Bahamut.Danagon 2009-04-16 16:46:16
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Barrd said:
but mob will be high lvl mob 1 man solo will not work for that and mob shude be overwelming

only need 1 bot to claim and afew others near by to kill
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-16 16:47:57
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but if the mob a spread out over the entier map hard to bot them all
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By Bahamut.Danagon 2009-04-16 16:49:08
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but if the mob a spread out over the entier map hard to bot them all

for a mob that powerful and a item that rare there isnt gonna be a ***load of mobs to kill 3-4 tops
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By Kujata.Houshisama 2009-04-16 16:49:38
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the HNMS arent supposed to be an easy thing. maybe you should be bitching about the botters to make it fair game instead of saying they should make them pop more or something HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE
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By Bahamut.Cloude 2009-04-16 16:50:52
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If you want to fight the 3 Land Kings, KS99 is available. If you want to fight the 3 Arht Urgan Kings, ZNM are available. If you want the loot from the 3 land Kings then there's Einhinjar available. Not sure what the problem is?
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By Titan.Shirai 2009-04-16 16:51:05
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Just keep the HNM as they are.

Most bigger linkshells use Einherjar these days for their abjurations anyway.
Even if it's only because on a lot of servers the HNM scene has become infested with NASA retards.
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-16 16:51:13
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say like fly in the tree that are all over the place make it drop of mobs like that and pump up the lvl a bit too like lvl 80~ lol just saying
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By Bahamut.Danagon 2009-04-16 16:52:52
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Cloude said:
If you want to fight the 3 Land Kings, KS99 is available. If you want to fight the 3 Arht Urgan Kings, ZNM are available. If you want the loot from the 3 land Kings then there's Einhinjar available. Not sure what the problem is?

This ^
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-16 16:54:35
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waiting 3 hr after waiting 21 hr sucks when you get out pull by a bot

all im say is that thay shude make the land and new nm more avalabull for new linkshell to try
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By Bahamut.Danagon 2009-04-16 16:55:49
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Barrd said:
waiting 3 hr after waiting 21 hr sucks when you get out pull by a bot

killing 1k mobs for no drop when 1 LS just starts killing goes 1/1 and something big drops? it happens.
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-16 16:57:02
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that is luck that what im saying

you can get it 1st try and not get it at all
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By Bahamut.Danagon 2009-04-16 16:59:57
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Barrd said:
that is luck that what im saying

not luck you can out claim a bot? >_>
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By Ramuh.Brahmdut 2009-04-16 17:03:23
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why not non 24hr nm's .. that drop R ex nm's be a force pop.. i spent 5 hrs on a nm that normaly pop's in about 10 min >< for a level 10 Great Katana
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By Lakshmi.Strey 2009-04-16 17:07:16
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I say more pop like Dark Ixion.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-16 17:07:59
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Brahmdut said:
why not non 24hr nm's .. that drop R ex nm's be a force pop.. i spent 5 hrs on a nm that normaly pop's in about 10 min >< for a level 10 Great Katana

/point+laugh
that south gustaburg nm is the best
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-04-16 17:25:13
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Cloude said:
If you want to fight the 3 Land Kings, KS99 is available. If you want to fight the 3 Arht Urgan Kings, ZNM are available. If you want the loot from the 3 land Kings then there's Einhinjar available. Not sure what the problem is?


Ridill, Defending Ring, Assjammer... There's quite a few quality or semi-good pieces Einherjar can't replace. The mass majority of people who want them to be instanced pops are the people who either don't want to camp kings or don't have the time. There's nothing wrong with that, everyone plays with different goals and timeframes.

I would personally quite enjoy seeing the land kings be instanced, but they never will be. The kings is one of the only competative events in this game keeping major competition and rivalry alive. It certainly wouldn't kill the game, but it'd certainly make it a little less exciting for quite a few people.

When I camped kings, I loved the thrill of not knowing who would claim. I wouldn't want to take that away from people now just because I don't have the time (or interest) to personally camp. Best way of putting it would be, "Either camp them or don't". Square Enix ain't going to change nothing, would be better to move on and do something else rather than ask them to.
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