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 Shiva.Flionheart
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-04-14 20:23:00
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I mean, wouldn't it be better to go as Nin or War?

Legit question here.


Other than proccing, talking about usefulness outside of proccing here.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-14 20:23:52
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How would you cover all bases to proc blue with the best low man setup?
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By Asura.Dajociont 2011-04-14 20:24:49
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yes
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-04-14 20:24:50
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Ok, I should say... Other than proccing.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-14 20:29:03
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MNK is a better tank than WAR generally due to counterstance, chi blast and other useful things. MNK is a top DD, under BLU of course, and I would rather go on MNK than WAR if I was to tank something. NIN is a worse DD than mnk. Usefulness outside of proc is DD, MNK tops NIN therefore its better.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-04-14 20:31:20
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
MNK is a better tank than WAR generally due to counterstance, chi blast and other useful things. MNK is a top DD, under SAM of course, and I would rather go on MNK than WAR if I was to tank something. NIN is a worse DD than mnk. Usefulness outside of proc is DD, MNK tops NIN therefore its better.

ftfy
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-14 20:37:37
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wat
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-04-14 20:38:29
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
wat

You heard me.
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By Fenrir.Dascorp 2011-04-14 20:39:25
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people still chi-blast on mnk? how much +mind gear can you get now?
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-14 20:41:17
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Fenrir.Dascorp said:
people still chi-blast on mnk? how much +mind gear can you get now?

wat
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-04-14 20:42:21
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Fairly certain Chi Blast was mentioned for its 'Aftermath' of reduced TP gain.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-04-14 20:43:00
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Also, can RDM still keep up with high DD situations like pre 80?

edit: With a joytoy
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By Fenrir.Dascorp 2011-04-14 20:44:00
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Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Fairly certain Chi Blast was mentioned for its 'Aftermath' of reduced TP gain.

Dryalo didnt specify Penance merits....
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By Odin.Spccdog 2011-04-14 20:46:20
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penance is the only real reason for chi blast, unless your weakened and sitting there doing nothing boosting and chi blasting. or trying to claim something fast.
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-04-14 20:46:24
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Does it not go without saying? Or do you have to be that dense as to not figure it out.
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By Fenrir.Dascorp 2011-04-14 20:50:02
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Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Does it not go without saying? Or do you have to be that dense as to not figure it out.

lol i see a lot of bandwagon mnks around

war has tomahawk

things die so fast that your point isnt valid Dr
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-04-14 20:54:51
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So I'll take it MNK is useless. Thanks guys.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-14 20:55:24
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Fenrir.Dascorp said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Does it not go without saying? Or do you have to be that dense as to not figure it out.

lol i see a lot of bandwagon mnks around

war has tomahawk

things die so fast that your point isnt valid Dr

My monk is better than urs
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By Fenrir.Dascorp 2011-04-14 21:00:44
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Fenrir.Dascorp said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Does it not go without saying? Or do you have to be that dense as to not figure it out.

lol i see a lot of bandwagon mnks around

war has tomahawk

things die so fast that your point isnt valid Dr

My monk is better than urs



I havent been around for over two year. so, you are right, my gear sucks now. if i were to come back. which isnt happening.

War cant solo for ***, but monk can. I soloed a lot on mnk.

i keep forgetting that everyone has everything leveled/merited now

not every monk had penance merited when i played unless you did salvage/einhendar
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By Lakshmi.Tronsy 2011-04-14 21:09:42
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What's wrong with MNK exactly?
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By Sylph.Systematicchaos 2011-04-14 21:14:30
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Lakshmi.Tronsy said:
What's wrong with MNK exactly?

Lack of Red Procs, besides that, nothing.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-14 21:15:50
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Salvage mayhaps?
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-14 21:17:36
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MNK has a few red procs actually. Cyclone, Energy drain, earth crusher, sunburst /nin. Red lotus blade, seraph blade, earth crusher, sunburst, raiden thrust, seraph strike as /war.
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By Fenrir.Dascorp 2011-04-14 21:20:44
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dryalo i got a question for you. can monk get away with subbing war now without being an mp sponge and/or stay alive?
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2011-04-14 21:21:55
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the OP is a *** fail for even thinking MNK is useless. We're the most useful job anywhere inside Abyssea, while being one of the fun jobs outside of Abyssea. MNK is my main job and I will say I enjoy beating the ***out of mobs, breaking a sweat, getting my knuckles bruised, and washing blood from my hands.
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By Sylph.Systematicchaos 2011-04-14 21:22:10
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I don't mean to say it doesn't have any, just that compared to NIN or WAR MNK is not capable of having as many at one time. You can get a fair bit as you mentioned, but you rely on some items that aren't as easy to attain (read seasonal for pitchfork, and I don't have any idea where the sword is from).
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-04-14 21:22:30
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Yes, they can.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-04-14 21:23:24
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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
the OP is a *** fail for even thinking MNK is useless. We're the most useful job anywhere inside Abyssea, while being one of the fun jobs outside of Abyssea. MNK is my main job and I will say I enjoy beating the ***out of mobs, breaking a sweat, getting my knuckles bruised, and washing blood from my hands.

NO
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2011-04-14 21:25:38
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
the OP is a *** fail for even thinking MNK is useless. We're the most useful job anywhere inside Abyssea, while being one of the fun jobs outside of Abyssea. MNK is my main job and I will say I enjoy beating the ***out of mobs, breaking a sweat, getting my knuckles bruised, and washing blood from my hands.

NO
because Flion insisted that I was born before 2008, I will use the phrase "The OP is a *** dumbass" just so FLion's nutsac will be tickled at his grammatically flavored response.
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