TH ! Raider's Armlets +1 Or Assassin's Armlets?

So my question is,
I am right in the assumption that i start on a mob with Assasins Armlets, to get the highest Tier TH on it, and after I hit it once, i switch to Raiders Armlets to use with sneak attack to stack it up more?

Yes, TH gear only has to be on during the intial attack on the mob and can be removed the second it lands and replaced with your normal gear.

when you engage a mob hit it with as much TH+ as possible once, then swap into your normal TP set, do not keep the ***on, you will not see higher proc rates or any of that crap for additional TH levels.

If you want to see those keep using SA and TA for higher chances.

Ahh oh well, so i swap out Raid. Poulaines +2 and Thief's Knife as well after initial attack. Dang i never did that

Your gear has no effect on the chance to proc a TH additional effect. So, after the first swing (With TH gear on), swap to your TP set (haste etc) and attack as you normally would.

Another point to keep in mind is that a TH+ proc can occur during a weaponskill. It does not show up in the chat log when this happens. What this means is that you can still use your SA/TA on weaponskills without losing the higher chance to proc TH+.

AHH thx didnt know that either

From my experience SA gives the highest chance of TH proc available. I always try to start attacking whatever I am farming or camping in full TH gear and SA. Once I see the first proc I return to my TP gear. But if its a mob with a drop of 1M+ I stay in TH gear the full fight. I am 9/21 on Amph Claws, where as most people I know are 0/20. This alone has convinced me wearing TH gears the full fight does increase drops. That or I am just super *** lucky. Ive got so many claws I have gave 3 away for free.

I find wearing assassin's armlets full time the TH rate increase's faster. I have read on wiki raider's +2 has some hidden effect increasing the TH but I have had better luck full timing AA's

Wiki was wrong.

Eyeballing proc rates is bad.

I normally left TH on until the first proc. Was that bad practice? If I'm reading this correctly its "1 hit with TH on then nevar again". Also, wearing more TH doesnt increase the rate it lands?

Sorry just trying to learn something about a 6th string job i never use :x

I swap out of armlet's after the initial proc, and knife as well. I need my +2 feets still though.

One hit Ash. If I have over 60% TP for whatever reason, I'll usually wait until I WS, then swap. Wearing more TH gear has no verified results that it increases proc rate, that I've seen.

Bolded is correct. Heck, you don't even have to hit the mob. You could throw your boomerang at it (and miss), or cast a ninjutsu on it to plant initial TH.

Has the boomerang missing been tested? I've always landed a hit, just for good measure.

Eyeballing


Maybe reading this wrong, but you don't need to proc a +1 to swap gear out, regardless of proc or not, you can swap gear out after hitting once (or even missing).


I'd love to see where those numbers come from


Mostly correct, though I found TH did not wipe even after a mob had completely deaggro'd and even regened some. I'd expect it disappears after full regen, though I can't confirm that.

First hit instills TH, not first proc.

If you have knife/armlets/boots you can hit it once to apply TH6, then unequip them. Your first proc will still be 7. Don't need to keep them equipped until you proc.

Correct

so you are saying, that if you have the following

90 thf
thief knife
assassin hands
raiders feet +2

THis puts you at a first proc of 7

So what are you saying is if i have all the above on all i have to do run up and hit the mob/throw a range at it/cast a spell/ w/e and even if i dont get the th proc on it right then that the th7 whats gonna proc when i get the first message even if i've already changed out of all my th gear before gettign a proc message? If this is true then what about this?

I forget to equip my TH + gear and run up and hit the mob with my first attack in my haste setup and i'm getting no bonus from knife, hands, or feet. so then is my th already instilled to be lower now since my initial hate gain with the monster was with none of my TH gear? Basically its be a TH 4 msg at this point. Or can i then realize hey i dont have my th gear on but i have got a message yet so i can then equip my knife, hands, feet and then reinstill a new predetermined TH level of 7 on the mob with another hate gaining gester to make up for my mistake of first attacking the mob without my TH + stuff?

I've always had my standard melee gear to include all TH + items and stayed in that gear until i get my message of TH effectiveness has reached lvl 7 before even thinking about swapping out knife hands and feet

If TH procs on TH3 with no gear, moving it to TH4, and then you equip your TH gear (Knife, Boots, and Armlets; Atma excluded), TH will ramp up to TH6 and the proc will be lost. If you hit it with TH3 first, don't proc, then equip TH gear, it'll be, again, TH6.

The highest TH effect takes precedence. If your gear is higher than the current effect on it, your TH level will replace it, and the next proc will be current level +1.

so basically all you need to do is hit the mob / gain enmity at some point with your highest level of th gear on and whenever you get a proc it will be w/e your th gear adds you up to.

Furthermore, if you equip the TH atma as well, your first proc will be 8.

You should always tag with your highest TH gear first Teezy, then just unequip it and it'll stay on. Any procs from then on will increase your previous TH. I'm just reiterating because I don't know that I understood what your last post implied.

Yes i'm aware but thanks.

yes ideally thats what i do is first anyting i do on mob is in highest TH gear. What i was trying to ask was dealing with if forgot to put my th gear on and ran up and got on the hate list without any of it on i would initially be instilling th4, but then i realize oh crap i dont have my th stuff on and switch it on and then do something else that the mob is now instilled with th7 and the mobs first message i get will be th7 and not th4