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tantra neck?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 13:37:19
Lakshmi.Blacklion said: Well i rarely get the full benefit of Boost when im /war with buffs, And yes i bring bards pretty often unless im mercing *** ( less people so less gil split). So basically i'd get a better benefit when Zerk is down, which is less than half my time fighting Well again, it rly depends on what you're fighting. but a lot of the Nms are going to have defense worthy of boost use. Mainly heroes magian upgrade NMs.
I usually go by this rule of thumb.
If my average is less on [insert NM here] than on [insert exp mob here], then boost is worth using.
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By Lakshmi.Blacklion 2011-03-20 13:39:26
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Also, special mention that back in the day when debating boost, also had to look at a 70/30 split in DoT/WS damage. The split w/ smite is going to drop the DoT portion down quite a bit, which also makes boosting that only helps ws dmg be worth more than it used to be back when Asuran was our primary ws.
This was also before all the special atma's that can make you do 1k dmg worth of melee attacks in a Couple seconds existed though
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 13:43:00
I'm not sure how much haste you have exactly (ghorn brd for example would change this), but even w/ capped delay reduction, if you stack your boost w/ WS to reduce the JA delay, then you're missing out on slightly more than half of one attack round. Less haste from the reduction cap will mean less % of that single attack round missed.
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By Lakshmi.Blacklion 2011-03-20 13:43:58
Could parse it, Take Melee hit average and Your x-attack round and multiply them, This is just assuming us with verethragna's though inside abyssea, DoT is Crazy
Also Adding boost directly to my WS Set would mean 3 macroes for the WS, and no additional boost from the AF. And no, no gjallar just the horn and sometimes Hands
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 13:47:01
We can't parse when ffxi is never coming back up brah!
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 13:47:41
Lakshmi.Blacklion said: Could parse it, Take Melee hit average and Your x-attack round and multiply them, This is just assuming us with verethragna's though inside abyssea, DoT is Crazy
Also Adding boost directly to my WS Set would mean 3 macroes for the WS, and no additional boost from the AF. And no, no gjallar just the horn and sometimes Hands Ewww you play on lolconsole?
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By Lakshmi.Blacklion 2011-03-20 13:49:38
No i play on PC, i just dont use spellcast
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 13:51:35
Lakshmi.Blacklion said: No i play on PC, i just dont use spellcast I don't, either. Why would you need 3 ws macros? I count 2. one w/ and one w/o boost. And if macro lines weren't a concern, why wouldn't af hands be available to you?
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By Lakshmi.Blacklion 2011-03-20 13:57:19
Cuz i macro out Alot of gear, Like for example if i go from MDT -> WS, MDt is 2 Macroes, and so is WS, im already having to click 4 Macroes in a couple seconds, And i have no more Space in my WS macro, so if i added Boost it'd take up more than i have ;/. Plus macro lines are a concern, I have everything organized in a certain way and my CTRL Is Full. If i boost it's with ALT, So i'd click that , then my 2 WS macroes, which would be 3 macores. Not to mention it may not even be a better increase to use the boost most times, and if it is it'd be very minimal.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-03-20 13:58:01
Lakshmi.Blacklion said: Cuz i macro out Alot of gear, Like for example if i go from MDT -> WS, MDt is 2 Macroes, and so is WS, im already having to click 4 Macroes in a couple seconds, And i have no more Space in my WS macro, so if i added Boost it'd take up more than i have ;/. Plus macro lines are a concern, I have everything organized in a certain way and my CTRL Is Full. If i boost it's with ALT, So i'd click that , then my 2 WS macroes, which would be 3 macores. Not to mention it may not even be a better increase to use the boost most times, and if it is it'd be very minimal.
Why not use windower macros through .txt files?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 13:58:58
Why don't you use windower macros? Full swap, WS, full swap back = 1 macro. Which includes boosting and af gloves.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 13:59:52
Primitive macros, whether you want to use boost or not, are highly inferior.
For example, my old school chakra macro from 75 cap
Quote: Input /equip Body "Tpl. Cyclas +1"
Input /equip Ammo "Bibiki seashell"
Input /equip Feet "Power Sandals"
Input /equip ring1 "Soil Ring"
Input /equip head "Genbu's Kabuto"
Input /equip waist "Warwolf Belt"
Input /equip ring2 "Soil Ring"
Input /equip hands "Melee Gloves"
Input /equip neck "Fortitude Torque"
Input /equip legs "Kensei Sitabaki"
Input /equip ear2 "Robust Earring"
Input /equip back "Melee Cape"
Input /equip ear1 "Eta Earring"
Input /ja "Chakra" Vegetto
Pause 1.1
input /equip head "Usukane Somen"
Input /equip body "Usukane Haramaki"
input /equip hands "Usukane Gote"
input /equip legs "Usukane Hizayoroi"
input /equip Feet "Usukane Sune-Ate"
Input /equip ring2 "Toreador's Ring"
Input /equip ring1 "Rajas Ring"
Input /equip waist "Black Belt"
Input /equip back "Forager's Mantle"
Input /equip ear1 "Brutal earring"
Input /equip neck "Faith Torque"
Input /equip Ammo "Black Tathlum"
Input /equip ear2 "Merman's Earring"
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By Lakshmi.Blacklion 2011-03-20 14:03:00
Unfamiliar with those, i'll check it out
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 14:08:23
PM sent
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By Bismarck.Torvak 2011-03-20 14:10:12
gah my xbox plays fine, had enough of configurating a PC all night long for each new game, PCs browse webs anything else is tedious
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 14:11:10
Bismarck.Torvak said: PCs browse webs anything else is tedious If you're a technological retard, sure.
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By Bismarck.Torvak 2011-03-20 14:19:33
no but yeah but no but yeah but no but yeah someone did say once if you hit ctrl+alt+del you get infinite health. i was like "doozer"
Ever killed Nidhogg at 100mph
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By Corwin 2011-03-21 00:10:25
I'm teetering between tryhard and mouthbreather.
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By Caitsith.Taereon 2011-03-21 00:22:39
Lakshmi.Blacklion said: Unfamiliar with those, i'll check it out Same here
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-03-21 00:22:43
Rev fists +2 > Tapian Fangs (fire path)
I take it?
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-03-21 00:24:59
Unicorn.Marrs said: Rev fists +2 > Tapian Fangs (fire path)
I take it?
Yes by a very large margin.
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By Sylph.Scare 2011-03-21 00:34:02
Like i said earlier VS> any weapon that cant use it. If you dont have it you should be working on getting it.
I just recently swapped from using xbox to using PC. I had my PC a total of 6 days before servers went down and trust me xbox is ***. Not only does it play better but its also hell on an xbox. Ive been through 4 xbox and 3 discs playing ffxi on it.
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-03-21 00:38:06
Sylph.Scare said: Like i said earlier VS> any weapon that cant use it. If you dont have it you should be working on getting it.
I just recently swapped from using xbox to using PC. I had my PC a total of 6 days before servers went down and trust me xbox is ***. Not only does it play better but its also hell on an xbox. Ive been through 4 xbox and 3 discs playing ffxi on it.
About xbox: Ouch.
But gdi...more trials....as if i didn't have to do enough for my blm...
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-03-21 00:41:13
Unicorn.Marrs said: But gdi...more trials....as if i didn't have to do enough for my blm...
I hear ya on this one, but I can promise you will enjoy the end result.
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By Sylph.Scare 2011-03-21 00:52:37
its all NM camping til VNMs. I just got ToD, popped in a movie, and watched between windows. It does get a bit annoying pausing every 5-however many mins it was for repop but better than the alternative. If your doing multiple NM camping you can usually time them to where you can kill NM go to diff place kill another then come back when each window is down.
Just got the tantra neck yesterday while getting an auric dagger, the stats (incase anyone needs refresher) are "accuracy + 5, kick attacks +2". I usually use faith torque for tp, but now I'm questioning the decision. my h2h skill is 389 (no +2 hands yet), making my base dmg 45.79 (with the torque). Without it and with the tantra neck on I'm 45.02. So the base damage is the same. When I have the torque on I do however gain an additional 7 attack from the skill boost.
I know that once I get the +2 hands the faith torque is the way to go, but right now I'm not sure.
Easy simple question: Which to wear for tp?
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