FFXIV Streaming Video (about 3.5 Hours Worth Of Footage)

Doesn't seem to be working at all for me

Maybe they didn't know what to call it besides EXP. 13 doesn't use a traditional lvl system, but you still get EXP in the forum of Crystalarium Points.


While the video is nice to see, Pookypoo made a stupid move bt doing it during the Alpha phase. The game is barely stable and when it goes into a full beta stage where a large part of the game is playable and they're looking for deeper bugs and errors he's going to be left out.

Exactly, again, this is why the NDA exists, people are jumping to assumptions based on the alpha build... How many people looking forward to something different than "Exp" just reconsidered their choice of FFXIV based on that?

Rules were meant to be broken anyways. Online games are meant to be fun not hostile.

And legal agreements are meant to be kept, or face the possibility of prosecution.

Wow, i love how people who know nothing about testing are speaking on this subject. Never in history has anyone been prosecuted or faced any legal ramifications for breaking and NDA, nor will it ever happen probably. At the very worst their alpha and/or beta access will be revoked

Edit: An MMO NDA* I should say. There are obviously NDA's for just about everything you can think of as well, I have to sign one being in the military even though I don't see anything classified.

I hope this person gets banned for breaking a legally binding contract. It is sad that people will do such things just to get there 5 min of fame. To those that are testing Keep up the good work and I cant wait to see what you all do to make the game even better

It actually has nothing to do with fame and everything to do with informing the community outside of testers, QQ moar. There will likely be tons of this stuff around between now and final release. Also, if you watched any of the footage, you're a hypocrite completely

If SE wanted everyone to see what was going on in the alpha they would let everyone in to see. But they don't want every in to see a rough version of the game. This is why they Limit access to these things. Once they get the bugs worked out and get a far better version up they will open up the beta phase of testing. And how do you know if people that are commenting on this are in the alpha or not. They cant say if they are that would be breaking the NDA

Because I must be a professional in testing and law to know that breaking a binding contract can lead to legal ramifications.

I guess that also means I can't say: Not all cases for NDA result in cash reimbursement and as such, would be a waste of the company's money anyway.

Except there's no possibility of any legal action. Unless these people were passing the source code (see: Valve and Half-life 2). If by a non- monetary punishment you mean a ban, that isn't classified as legal action.

What's your point here? Sounds like you're just repeating what's already been said.
I'm also curious as to how the fact that someone is in alpha or not is relevant.

My point is pretty simple. If Your not a alpha tester just sit back and wait for SE to release info to you which they will with time. And If You are a tester keep the info to your self is kinda simple.

He knew full well of the NDA, knew he was breaking it, and knew it was wrong. He knew he would be banned and did it anyway, then came up with this whole Robin Hood story about doing it for the greater good. He claimed that he knew what the people wanted and that SE was basically stupid for not just showing it anyway.

Regardless of whether there's any truth behind any of his story (I very much doubt it, I think he was just going for his 10 minutes of fame), it's not his place to call those shots. He was banned for good reason, but what he calls being open and honest (by not hiding his name), I call brazen and defiant. He knew he was breaking the NDA, he knew it was wrong, he knew he'd be banned, he did it anyway. To me, that suggests that he deserves a bigger punishment, and, because he HAS got his 10 minutes of fame, if he was banned from FFXI too, it would make a damn good example to anyone else planning on breaking the NDA.

It's a little bit like the difference between *insert crime here*, and doing the same crime openly in front of a cop. It's no longer simply about the crime (although you'll be fined for that too), but it's a matter of open rebellion and defiance of the law. But hey, maybe that's just me.

So he gave some info away from the *** alpha version. This doesn't even remotely reflect the final release results and neither do betas for that matter.

Yeah he deserved the ban for openly breaking clear cut rules, but banning him from FFXI and potentially from playing XIV is abit much.

As I think I said earlier, I have nothing against him personally, I'm thinking from a business standpoint here. SE put the NDA in place for a reason, and want people to stick to it. Of course they want full control over what information is released at what times, and that's totally their prerogative. In my eyes, the best way for them to show the community that they're serious about the NDA is to take some serious action.

You know everybody can say this is right or is wrong BUT I will give you something to think about. Yes it was wrong to do it so is watching porn and about playing a game ffxi that you dont own and se has the right to delete your toon but people make choices. Its like me i got butscrewed by where I work cause I followed the rules and got hurt and they terminated me. I got 2 words for you ***HAPPENS!

I got 2 words for you LEARN ENGLISH! I mean seriously, what the *** are you trying to say, you're comparing breaking a legally binding contract to watching porn?

wtfs, Porn isn't illegal to watch. You just can't buy it if you're under 18.

Edit: Then again you can't buy much if you're under 18 via credit card. (Infomercial materials etc)

Arg, SE have deleted my youtube videos D: Deletd vid I had of battle music, which is the music that plays on the offcial 14 site (whcih is where i got it), though they let all my vids of ffxi+ingame music >.>

You know, I'm really getting tired of players pretending to be the junior Game masters when they're not. Exploiting the game play was generously nice enough for us fan players to get a glimpse of this fine game. I'm still interested and so far it's already showing to be promising as it is.

But seriously, they need the tone down the rules that are unnecessary and focus more on reinforcement of players attempting to ruin it for others (i.e. RMT, hacking, or just flat out monopolizing).

Like in my previous thread about swearing... I mean seriously everyone swears online in all games. Even Jp players get away with swearing that's not even filtered in the censorship system of the "Language filter".

But anyways...

So far, the game-play & fighting is already appealing than FFXI but still in the works. I just hope they don't make the fighting as slow and dull as FFXI.

Music definitely has improved solo, party, and game play of the follow through with the storyline.

Based on the connection (connectivity of the server) there's very little lag unless it's at a active location like the ship for example or when fighting. I noticed the bar went up I think which could have been a possible lag.

You're assuming everyone is knowledgeable to know the difference between Alpha build and commercial release, I guarantee you Square Enix lost potential customers over the leaked footage, because the idiots (A depressingly large majority of the population) would see that and say "omgwtf look at teh lagz dawg, it be unplayblie ya heer?!"

Basically, the smart thing for Pooky to have done is find some way to PWlock or somesuch the live stream as an idiot filter, so that the people who realize an alpha build is designed to be a barely playable wreck, can get a glimpse at the first real time gameplay of FFXIV since GDC. Then I would support the absurd "Robin Hood" argument. But displaying on public channel is 100% NDA Breech for nothing more than some attention so, ban thx gtfo.

imma be honest here. not attacking your opinion but *** SEs NDA. We barely get any info from them. Its like months and months of nothing and random explosion of info...and when you read all of it... you realize its nothing new or exciting. They haven't explained the whole battle system yet or the general features of the game.


Also I think the whole Alpha test is utter bs they should have done that in-house. Get the whole thing sorted then released a Open beta to test out the servers...tbh. AND GIVE US A DAMN TIME TABLE'ish like June or or something. Until then props to whoever break NDA and report back info, *** SE rules at this point in time.

night

You miss the whole point and i guess you don´t even understand what a NDA is.
Be happy (ok maybe not you cuz it looks like you are not a alpha/beta tester, thats why you are mad now) ppl can test the alpha and beta version of FFXIV, most company's have only a open beta. There is a reason why SE hold back some informations till a certain time.

I hate one thing and that are ignorant and selfish ppl. Those ppl who think if the alpha/beta tester can play and see the game, everyone should see it too, a little paradox huh?
According to the NDA the testers must report ppl who break the NDA rules and any leaking info around the web.

I think it's mostly non-JP people that feel that way and are prone to breaking the NDA, the single reason is that SE seems to ignore EU/US when it comes to releasing information. How many interviews has Elmer translated for Alla and we've yet to get our own English youtube channel. I'm not supporting the NDA, but if SE wants to avoid something like this again, release more for the EU/US sites.

What are you on about? The na site has just as much info as the JP site. The last bit of info added was only a few days behind the JP site, assumedly for translations. The EU site gets screwed, but they/we can check the NA site.

To Thunderz: Having a public alpha is unheard of or at least incredibly rare I believe, I think SE have been very GENEROUS to allow a limited number of people to witness it, and lucky for them. However, they get to witness it on the agreement that they'll keep it under wraps as if it WAS in-house. So, if people stuck by the NDA, to you, a non-alpha tester, it would be exactly the same as if they'd kept it in-house.

So you're contradicting yourself pretty bad there. On one hand you say they should have kept it in-house (you get no information at all), while on the other hand you say the testers should break the NDA (you get information). You really come off sounding extremely jealous and nothing more.

I can see why companies do keep stuff in-house so damn long now though. There's bugger all they can really show the public at this point since it's an alpha build and nothing is working right OR finalised. As Zicdeh is saying, people are way too quick to judge, and will make their decision about buying the game on the first information they see, which, as an alpha build, is incredibly inaccurate to the commercial release.

This is sad, I guess the majority of people here have played ffxi onry and aren't aware that NDA's in mmo's are one of those things that are "meant to be broken".

Blazza, you sound more like "Robin hood" than the guy leaking footage here. And i'm also willing to bet you've watched it, hypocrite.

Bottom line: You aren't going to win points with SE for posting on a forum about how wrong it was, so why are you so vehemently against someone breaking NDA? You only stand to benefit from it. SE isn't going to turn around and go "Well, they've seen it, now they'll wait 6 more months bwahahahha".

All that's happened here is someone with access gave those of us without it insight (albeit not too much) and broke NDA. Should he have been banned? Yes, he broke NDA and if you get caught that's what happens. Should he remain banned? Yes for the aforementioned reason. Should anyone really care accept him and those who were looking forward to getting more info? No, it doesn't concern you really and it isn't going to do anything but enlighten you, so stop trying to virtually suck off SE and jog on....

The thing that discusts me about this whole thing is that Pooky is pretty much being picked on since he was the first "public" person to broadcast. There is plenty of people leaking information and posting Screenshots/Videos on forums that have a hidden areas.

What makes it silly is there are people acting like NDA Police, a guy even made a thread on the Test Forums asking to make a "witch-hunt" gang to find all of the people leaking information, as if being in the Alpha makes you some kind of special person. It's as if peple didn't know the NDA was obviously going to be broken.

It has nothing to do with trying to "virtually suck off SE". You've even agreed with my point, bottom line, alpha testers are alpha testers under the provision that they don't break the NDA. Anyone that breaks the NDA should be banned. You just said that yourself, so why are you attacking me?

The only difference is that I think it would be a good advertisement to other alpha testers to do more than just ban him from the alpha.

Yes, I did watch his stream, but I don't see how that makes me a hypocrite?

If the information is there, I'm going to look, but un-like just about everyone else, I'm not going around saying "*** the NDA" and "*** SE" and begging alpha testers for that information. From what I've seen, the information been released so far from SE officially has been much the same as that of the alpha testers. Pookypoos stream didn't really show much new over the game convention footage a year ago. The only things it did show us that weren't at the game convention are all things that may or may not even make it to commercial release anyway.

I'm just trying to point out that no-one has any right to information. There seems to be this massive common opinion that we have this god given right to all information about FFXIV, and I can't work out where the *** it comes from. SE is a company who's sole purpose is to make money. In order to do that, they're working on an MMO, but to get it to the stage where it can make them as much money as possible, they would have very strict marketing plans in place. Breaking the NDA ruins that plan and potentially damages the companies bottom line. This potential revenue loss will be reflected in the games they produce, as they won't be able to throw as much money at them (to have more developers on each game, to keep each game in development longer to really polish them).

So, when FFXIV turns out to be a steaming pile of ***because all the alpha testers were too busy *** around and breaking the NDA instead of testing, you can blame yourself. When the next FF game also turns out to be ***because the failure that was 14 put the company in debt and they couldn't spend as much money polishing it, you can blame yourself. This is all pretty exaggerated, but it's still a very real scenario.

tl;dr version: It's basic economics, the NDA isn't just there for fun, and should be respected. Even if you had shares in SE, you wouldn't have a right to information that everyone seems to think they have, so STFU and stop asking people to break the NDA.

People are idiots who think absolution absolves them of a fair examination of the entire situation.

This reminds me of the tards QQ'ing about windower.... lulz