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Those 28, actually 29, pages and lies.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-07-16 21:31:19
This is a blog in the HuffPo by a 9/11 widow. It is in NO WAY a truther bit.
29 Pages Revealed: Corruption, Crime and Cover-up Of 9/11
The most incendiary bits:
Quote: First and foremost, here is what you need to know when you listen to any member of our government state that the newly released 29 pages are no smoking gun — THEY ARE LYING.
Our government’s relationship to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is no different than an addict’s relationship to heroin. Much like a heroin addict who will lie, cheat, and steal to feed their vice, certain members of our government will lie, cheat, and steal to continue their dysfunctional and deadly relationship with the KSA — a relationship that is rotting this nation and its leaders from the inside out.
When CIA Director John Brennan states that he believes the 29 pages prove that the government of Saudi Arabia had no involvement in the 9/11 attacks, recognize that John Brennan is not a man living in reality — he is delusional by design, feeding and protecting his Saudi vice.
When Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, Anne W. Patterson, testifies — under oath — that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is an ally that does everything they can to help us fight against Islamic terrorism, recognize that her deep, steep Saudi pandering serves and protects only her Saudi vice.
Read the 29 pages and know the facts....
President Bush did not want the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia investigated. President Bush has deep ties to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and its royal family and only wanted to protect the Kingdom. President Bush wanted to go to war in Iraq — not Saudi Arabia. So, 29 full pages that said “Saudi” and “Bandar” instead of “Hussein” and “Iraq” was a huge problem for President Bush....
The only thing James Clapper and Barack Obama are willing to say about the delayed release of the 29 pages is that they stand by the investigation of the 9/11 Commission. This punt by President Barack Obama is repulsive. President Obama’s deference to the 9/11 Commission — who themselves admit that they were unable to fully investigate the Saudi role in the 9/11 attacks — depicts Obama’s utter lack of interest, engagement, or support of the 9/11 families....
To be clear, the 9/11 Commission did NOT fully investigate the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Staff Director Philip Zelikow blocked any investigation into the Saudis. Zelikow even went so far as to fire an investigator who had been brought over from the Joint Inquiry to specifically follow-up on the Saudi leads and information uncovered in the Joint Inquiry....
Note that these 29 pages merely detail the Saudi connection to the 9/11 attacks in San Diego. They briefly touch on the Phoenix information, as well. Though more notably, the 29 pages do not include information found in the more than 80,000 documents that are currently being reviewed by a federal judge in Florida — 80,000 documents that neither the 9/11 Commission, the Joint Inquiry, the Clinton, Bush, or Obama White House, nor the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia wants us to know about....
(9/11 widows Monica Gabrielle, Mindy Kleinberg, Lorie Van Auken, and Patty Casazza all sign their names to this blog)
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By Blazed1979 2016-07-17 01:06:08
I think the LOLpost is really reaching here.
All this wishful thinking that the Government of Bush conspired with what is the ISLAMIC capital of the world is ludicrous.
KSA has enough haters in Washington that if there was ANY truth to this it would have senators lining up for action. Not to mention lobbyist groups such as AIPAC.
On the other hand you have reports such as the Chilcot absolutely damning politicians for lying and creating a false pretext for war that has ruined the lives of millions upon millions of people. The fallout of which has lead to the refugee crisis and every single terror attack since 9/11.There are no cries to prosecute Tony Blair or G.Bush despite the Chilcot report. Nor are there any cries to hold Israel to account for both military(USSliberty) and cyber attacks(stuxnet) it has conducted on the US civilian populace and the Military, despite the official story recognizing Israel as the guilty culprit, caught with the smoking gun.
This hypocrisy is what invalidates any legitimacy the western world would hold. We see through these double standards and don't for one second trust anything your politicians promise and say.
The democratic world claims to be governed by the people, and that is a scam. People rose up in the Arab world and toppled their governments for much much less. The Arab world didn't need a 2008 mega bailout of the banks to get stirred up, just the rise in food prices by 25% was enough for Governments to be replaced.
If the western populace think the status quo is a permanent position they inherited due to divine right, they are about to wake up to a harsh reality. A reality that is told time and time again throughout History; a passive, dumb and numb populace that does not relentlessly keep itself armed with knowledge of current events is one that is doomed to slip back into obscurity.
The west has done a great job at making the Islamic world realize it is seen as the enemy. Even when moderates, who represent the overwhelming majority of the Islamic world, reach out and try to reason with the west, the response is the manifestation of Trumps and Netenyahus. These people are rising to power due to their opinions and policies being popular with the civilian population.
If the Trump presidency is as bad as we all think it is going to be, you will be dealing with an Islamic world that no longer thinks it can reason with you. It will eventually forsake dialogue. That doesn't mean war at first, but you can expect policies and positions that will at first hurt you economically, isolate you politically and popular culture that recognizes you as the enemy.
All that hasn't happened yet, because we realize the crazies are indeed committing horrific acts of terror that we all need to reign in. We're partnering up with you to do that, but at the same time you're pointing the finger at us.
Look at your zealots over there. Look at their fervor for war and destruction. Do you really want 2 billion people on this planet thinking they're being targeted?
That is madness.
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By Blazed1979 2016-07-17 01:15:51
While Turkey's population of highly engaged and politicised youth defeated the military in a coup, in New York this is what brought traffic to a standstill YouTube Video Placeholder .
And meanwhile, YouTube Video Placeholder
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By Bahamut.Vinedrius 2016-07-17 07:22:50
While Turkey's population of highly engaged and politicised youth defeated the military in a coup, in New York this is what brought traffic to a standstill YouTube Video Placeholder
First world problems.
Meanwhile we watch our own army officers dropping bombs on the parliament, firing at Police HQs in tanks, Erdogan and his PM calling people to raid the plotters (as if his own people are meat shields) and Erdogan supporters lynching innocent 20 years old privates who were led to believe by their commanders that they were armed and stationed at certain places only for a military exercise...
Unfortunately, a good number of that "highly engaged and politicized youth" were a bunch of savage beasts. Some people go out of their way to hunt down pokemons on a smart phone screen, some people go out of their way to hunt down their own privates, who could have been their own sons.
There must be a reset humanity button somewhere in the world... There has to be...
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By fonewear 2016-07-17 07:24:10
Bahamut.Vinedrius said: »While Turkey's population of highly engaged and politicised youth defeated the military in a coup, in New York this is what brought traffic to a standstill YouTube Video Placeholder
First world problems.
Meanwhile we watch our own army officers dropping bombs on the parliament, firing at Police HQs in tanks, Erdogan and his PM calling people to raid the plotters (as if his own people are meat shields) and Erdogan supporters lynching innocent 20 years old privates who were led to believe by their commanders that they were armed and stationed at certain places only for a military exercise...
Unfortunately, a good number of that "highly engaged and politicized youth" were a bunch of savage beasts. Some people go out of their way to hunt down pokemons on a smart phone screen, some people go out of their way to hunt down their own privates, who could have been their own sons.
There must be a reset humanity button somewhere in the world... There has to be...
By Skjalfeirdotter 2016-07-17 14:04:25
It is in NO WAY a truther bit.
Not a truther bit, eh? Well, that's too bad. You speak as though truth is a bad thing. We need truth, real truth, now more than ever. Yes there are those who mix in misinformation and disinformation into the 9/11 Truth Movement, but that doesn't mean that people should dismiss everything.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-07-17 18:10:39
The "Truther" point system for validating information.
Is it on YouTube? +500 points.
Does it disagree with the government? +200 points.
Does it mention central banks? +150 points.
Is it information that "_____ doesn't want you to know"? +100 points.
Does it tell someone to "wake up"? +20 points per mention.
Does it call people sheeple? +10 points per mention.
Is it from a cult of personality type who gets paid a lot of money to sell you schlock (e.g. Alex Jones)? +500 points
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2016-07-17 18:59:58
why is it a bad thing that we stop traffic for our leisure activities instead of to stop military coups?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-07-17 20:49:09
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No, and even reading it won't change the fact that this is nothing more than another one of your conspiracy theories. This isn't my conspiracy theory or even a conspiracy theory at all.
Its 4 women's reading of those 29 pages. 4 wounded women's readings.
Read it your own fricking self or shut your flapping lips.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-07-17 20:57:15
It is in NO WAY a truther bit. Not a truther bit, eh? Well, that's too bad. You speak as though truth is a bad thing. We need truth, real truth, now more than ever. Yes there are those who mix in misinformation and disinformation into the 9/11 Truth Movement, but that doesn't mean that people should dismiss everything. Skjalf, the 9/11 "truters" insist that there was a US government conspiracy to wire the twin towers with thermite and bring them down with the help of hired dupes.
IMHO they fell to benign neglect and terrorists. Saudi terrorists. Like 18 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis. Financed by Saudis. Even in two cases brought into the US by Saudis.
After all W thought Bin Laden was a Clinton problem. He wanted Saddam's oil. Project for the New American Century check it out.
By fonewear 2016-07-17 21:02:16
It is in NO WAY a truther bit. Not a truther bit, eh? Well, that's too bad. You speak as though truth is a bad thing. We need truth, real truth, now more than ever. Yes there are those who mix in misinformation and disinformation into the 9/11 Truth Movement, but that doesn't mean that people should dismiss everything. Skjalf, the 9/11 "truters" insist that there was a US government conspiracy to wire the twin towers with thermite and bring them down with the help of hired dupes.
IMHO they fell to benign neglect and terrorists. Saudi terrorists. Like 18 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis. Financed by Saudis. Even in two cases brought into the US by Saudis.
After all W thought Bin Laden was a Clinton problem. He wanted Saddam's oil. Project for the New American Century check it out.
By fonewear 2016-07-17 21:03:19
I'm normally one for wacky conspiracy threads but this is too wacky for me !
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-07-17 21:04:59
No comprende the reference Fone.
By fonewear 2016-07-17 21:08:24
Here:
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-07-17 21:57:31
No comprende the reference Fone. I still dont get it.
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By Skjalfeirdotter 2016-07-17 22:46:05
It is in NO WAY a truther bit. Not a truther bit, eh? Well, that's too bad. You speak as though truth is a bad thing. We need truth, real truth, now more than ever. Yes there are those who mix in misinformation and disinformation into the 9/11 Truth Movement, but that doesn't mean that people should dismiss everything. Skjalf, the 9/11 "truters" insist that there was a US government conspiracy to wire the twin towers with thermite and bring them down with the help of hired dupes.
IMHO they fell to benign neglect and terrorists. Saudi terrorists. Like 18 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis. Financed by Saudis. Even in two cases brought into the US by Saudis.
After all W thought Bin Laden was a Clinton problem. He wanted Saddam's oil. Project for the New American Century check it out.
You don't have to preach to Skjalf. Skjalf knows all about what concerning 9/11, its a shame that more people don't know or can't except it.
By Skjalfeirdotter 2016-07-17 22:58:31
It is in NO WAY a truther bit. Not a truther bit, eh? Well, that's too bad. You speak as though truth is a bad thing. We need truth, real truth, now more than ever. Yes there are those who mix in misinformation and disinformation into the 9/11 Truth Movement, but that doesn't mean that people should dismiss everything. Skjalf, the 9/11 "truters" insist that there was a US government conspiracy to wire the twin towers with thermite and bring them down with the help of hired dupes.
IMHO they fell to benign neglect and terrorists. Saudi terrorists. Like 18 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis. Financed by Saudis. Even in two cases brought into the US by Saudis.
After all W thought Bin Laden was a Clinton problem. He wanted Saddam's oil. Project for the New American Century check it out.
You don't have to preach to Skjalf. Skjalf knows all about what concerning 9/11, its a shame that more people don't know or can't except it.
accept * not except
By Skjalfeirdotter 2016-07-17 23:07:30
As for reading... people should be read Where Did the Towers Go? Evidence of Directed Free-energy Technology on 9/11 by Dr. Judy Wood.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-18 01:05:10
This isn't my conspiracy theory or even a conspiracy theory at all. You see, the problem with people who believe in conspiracy theories, they don't see them as conspiracy theories.
You are proof of that.
Read it your own fricking self or shut your flapping lips. How about neither?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-07-18 01:17:34
As for reading... people should be read Where Did the Towers Go? Evidence of Directed Free-energy Technology on 9/11 by Dr. Judy Wood.
Yeah, been reading up a bit on her theories.... I even found other "Truther" websites that explain exactly why her theories are nuts, all the while putting in their own explanations of how the "inside job" was carried out.
On top of that, if the writing in the book is as obnoxious as the writing on the book's website, then count me out.
By Skjalfeirdotter 2016-07-18 02:16:47
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-07-18 03:22:32
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By Skjalfeirdotter 2016-07-18 04:55:26
This is a blog in the HuffPo by a 9/11 widow. It is in NO WAY a truther bit.
29 Pages Revealed: Corruption, Crime and Cover-up Of 9/11
The most incendiary bits:
Quote: First and foremost, here is what you need to know when you listen to any member of our government state that the newly released 29 pages are no smoking gun — THEY ARE LYING.
Our government’s relationship to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is no different than an addict’s relationship to heroin. Much like a heroin addict who will lie, cheat, and steal to feed their vice, certain members of our government will lie, cheat, and steal to continue their dysfunctional and deadly relationship with the KSA — a relationship that is rotting this nation and its leaders from the inside out.
When CIA Director John Brennan states that he believes the 29 pages prove that the government of Saudi Arabia had no involvement in the 9/11 attacks, recognize that John Brennan is not a man living in reality — he is delusional by design, feeding and protecting his Saudi vice.
When Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, Anne W. Patterson, testifies — under oath — that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is an ally that does everything they can to help us fight against Islamic terrorism, recognize that her deep, steep Saudi pandering serves and protects only her Saudi vice.
Read the 29 pages and know the facts....
President Bush did not want the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia investigated. President Bush has deep ties to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and its royal family and only wanted to protect the Kingdom. President Bush wanted to go to war in Iraq — not Saudi Arabia. So, 29 full pages that said “Saudi” and “Bandar” instead of “Hussein” and “Iraq” was a huge problem for President Bush....
The only thing James Clapper and Barack Obama are willing to say about the delayed release of the 29 pages is that they stand by the investigation of the 9/11 Commission. This punt by President Barack Obama is repulsive. President Obama’s deference to the 9/11 Commission — who themselves admit that they were unable to fully investigate the Saudi role in the 9/11 attacks — depicts Obama’s utter lack of interest, engagement, or support of the 9/11 families....
To be clear, the 9/11 Commission did NOT fully investigate the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Staff Director Philip Zelikow blocked any investigation into the Saudis. Zelikow even went so far as to fire an investigator who had been brought over from the Joint Inquiry to specifically follow-up on the Saudi leads and information uncovered in the Joint Inquiry....
Note that these 29 pages merely detail the Saudi connection to the 9/11 attacks in San Diego. They briefly touch on the Phoenix information, as well. Though more notably, the 29 pages do not include information found in the more than 80,000 documents that are currently being reviewed by a federal judge in Florida — 80,000 documents that neither the 9/11 Commission, the Joint Inquiry, the Clinton, Bush, or Obama White House, nor the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia wants us to know about....
(9/11 widows Monica Gabrielle, Mindy Kleinberg, Lorie Van Auken, and Patty Casazza all sign their names to this blog)
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