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Trust Ciphers!
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2015-05-18 13:40:53
Bahamut.Seekerstar said: »I got Najah Salaheem, she appears to be white mage with a dreadfully slow attack speed, and didn't do much. But I didn't give her but like 3 fights to do something and I was already buffed... gonna test now, will edit my post.
I used Naja recently.
It appears that her strength is tied directly into your ranking in your unity. For me, she seemed to TP rather fast and she spammed Hexa Strike, saving TP for skillchains as appropriate.
I read somewhere that if you rank highly enough, her Peacebreaker upgrades into Justicebreaker, which apparently gives -100% DT...
Edit: I KNEW I should have went with you yesterday! DAMMIT lol.
Any additional info on this? Most of my LS is Naja (UC) so I'd be grateful to learn how her WS can upgrade like that.
I found it on the BG forums. The person who stated that they'd seen the upgrade has an evaluation of about 40. I'm not sure if that was personal or the partial one.
They did say that it appears that Justicebreaker is not quite -100% DT as they once thought, but was an undetermined percentage higher than her normal Peacebreaker.
They theorized that the UC trusts' abilities come at ten point intervals, increasing as your rank gets higher.
It may also be tied into your unity's overall rank. I sort of hope not, because of all the people who change weekly in order to maintain maximum bonuses on their Unity gear. It screws with the rankings some.
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 Leviathan.Krysten
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2015-05-18 21:24:39
Halver is basiclly like Excimlle from my trials havent used alot yet tho, Semi is nice....
im surpized bastok doesnt have a trust tho seems kinda odd
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By Creaucent Alazrin 2015-05-18 22:31:10
Bahamut.Seekerstar said: »Bahamut.Seekerstar said: »I got Najah Salaheem, she appears to be white mage with a dreadfully slow attack speed, and didn't do much. But I didn't give her but like 3 fights to do something and I was already buffed... gonna test now, will edit my post.
I used Naja recently.
It appears that her strength is tied directly into your ranking in your unity. For me, she seemed to TP rather fast and she spammed Hexa Strike, saving TP for skillchains as appropriate.
I read somewhere that if you rank highly enough, her Peacebreaker upgrades into Justicebreaker, which apparently gives -100% DT...
Edit: I KNEW I should have went with you yesterday! DAMMIT lol.
Any additional info on this? Most of my LS is Naja (UC) so I'd be grateful to learn how her WS can upgrade like that.
I found it on the BG forums. The person who stated that they'd seen the upgrade has an evaluation of about 40. I'm not sure if that was personal or the partial one.
They did say that it appears that Justicebreaker is not quite -100% DT as they once thought, but was an undetermined percentage higher than her normal Peacebreaker.
They theorized that the UC trusts' abilities come at ten point intervals, increasing as your rank gets higher.
It may also be tied into your unity's overall rank. I sort of hope not, because of all the people who change weekly in order to maintain maximum bonuses on their Unity gear. It screws with the rankings some.
The only thing ive done with Unity is join Naja's so ive got no idea what my rank is so I imagine if I have a person rank it will be something really low. Ive been using her a little bit and shes only using Justicebreaker but the strange thing is she used it back to back 4 times with only a couple of hits between wses.
 Leviathan.Tsoi
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By Leviathan.Tsoi 2015-05-19 00:10:20
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By Asura.Vafruvant 2015-05-19 01:36:36
Leviathan.Krysten said: »Halver is basiclly like Excimlle from my trials havent used alot yet tho, Semi is nice....
im surpized bastok doesnt have a trust tho seems kinda odd The point was new Trusts. Zeid was the first Cipher ever given out during a log in campaign year and a half ago, and this new one is representative of the Rhapsodies story, much like ethereal Lion II, so those shouldn't count. Halver and Semi have no involvement in the story (yet), thus the point of Bastok not getting a random Trust, unrelated to story.
By gdiShun 2015-05-19 02:05:27
Logged on a character without a ***ton of innate +EXP/CP to test Kupofried. Without Kupofried, 720EXP on character with the Rhapsodies KIs+Moghancement: Bounty(which appears to be 10%), 360EXP on the character w/o. With Kupofried, 792EXP and 432EXP. So it looks like Kupofried is actually 20%, but with all the innate EXP/CP+% we get, it's effectively a ~10% increase.
 Cerberus.Elvyn
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By Cerberus.Elvyn 2015-05-19 05:31:57
Apururu (UC) Trust, is a WHM/RDM (Use's convert but no RDM Spells)
- Prora and Shellra
- Cure IV-VI
- Curaga IV-V
-Blinda, Stona, Paralyna, Viruna, Silena (would assume all na's)
- Stoneskin on herself
- Auto Refresh II
- has club and takes melee distance but wont attack
- Has high (50-75tp) regain
- Once she reaches 3000tp will use Nott's which seems to be a personal version of Dagan, restoring a fair amount of HP and MP
- Use's Martyr and Devotion on other party members
All in all, she is easily on of the best WHM's trust out.
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 Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-05-19 05:33:10
You forgot she uses Convert when low on mp.
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Cerberus.Elvyn
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By Cerberus.Elvyn 2015-05-19 05:58:32
You forgot she uses Convert when low on mp.
Ah Sorry, put that in now, tbh iv never seen her run out of MP during my job points farming.
Edited to reflect this :D Thank you
By FaeQueenCory 2015-05-19 07:32:52
Quetzalcoatl.Kenchion said: »Anyone used the prince of sandy yet? He's weird.
I can't decide if he's good or not.
He melee's with Afflatus Misery + Auspice up.
He haste cycles regardless of job (though he does it dumb with you first, THEN himself... Smh).
Only ever seen him use star/moonlight a couple times... But was on SMN and DNC so I think things die too fast to note him doing anything fancy WSwise.
He pro/shells and -nas and he must have some amount of cure potency because his C4s cure for more than other Trusts. (680ish v the 550ish from standard Trusts... Since that was to full it might be more potent.)
As personal standing increases he'll probably start casting Holys... Maybe.
Maybe he'll gain a fancy WS?
Dunno yet.
Leviathan.Stamos
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2015-05-19 09:46:33
Any idea what jobs Flavira/Jakoh are?
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2015-05-19 09:52:31
Any idea what jobs Flavira/Jakoh are?
I heard Flavira uses Jump so possibly a DRG minus wyvern?
Think I read someplace that Jakoh could be THF but don't take that as gospel.
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By Odin.Bellincion 2015-05-19 10:43:51
Anyone know what conditions need to be met to get these (UC) trusts? I would like jakoh and spiritual if I can get them.
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2015-05-19 10:47:53
Anyone know what conditions need to be met to get these (UC) trusts? I would like jakoh and spiritual if I can get them.
You only get the UC of the unity you're in, so one per customer.
Sorry.
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By Odin.Bellincion 2015-05-19 11:01:19
Thank you, do we have a list of what trusts for which unity?
By Chyula 2015-05-19 11:10:37
Apururu (UC) Trust, is a WHM/RDM (Use's convert but no RDM Spells)
- Prora and Shellra
- Cure IV-VI
- Curaga IV-V
-Blinda, Stona, Paralyna, Viruna, Silena (would assume all na's)
- Stoneskin on herself
- Auto Refresh II
- has club and takes melee distance but wont attack
- Has high (50-75tp) regain
- Once she reaches 3000tp will use Nott's which seems to be a personal version of Dagan, restoring a fair amount of HP and MP
- Use's Martyr and Devotion on other party members
All in all, she is easily on of the best WHM's trust out.
damn time to switch unity, *** maat but also losing #1 rank. so hard to decide.
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By Odin.Bellincion 2015-05-19 16:19:30
Apururu (UC) Trust, is a WHM/RDM (Use's convert but no RDM Spells)
- Prora and Shellra
- Cure IV-VI
- Curaga IV-V
-Blinda, Stona, Paralyna, Viruna, Silena (would assume all na's)
- Stoneskin on herself
- Auto Refresh II
- has club and takes melee distance but wont attack
- Has high (50-75tp) regain
- Once she reaches 3000tp will use Nott's which seems to be a personal version of Dagan, restoring a fair amount of HP and MP
- Use's Martyr and Devotion on other party members
All in all, she is easily on of the best WHM's trust out.
damn time to switch unity, *** maat but also losing #1 rank. so hard to decide.
What unity is this from?
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Quetzalcoatl.Jezz
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jezz 2015-05-19 20:39:38
Apururu Unity, for Apururu (UC) Trust. :)
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By Asura.Tenakilo 2015-05-20 11:32:44
Has anyone figured out how to get the Rongleouts trust? I've checked both Sandy (S) and ToAU. Talking to him in South Sandy (S) does nothing and Neither Naja or her assistant provide hints.
tried every npc i could think of and nothing yet. thinking it might be one of those added but not obtainable yet items
Phoenix.Capuchin
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2015-05-20 11:40:48
Has anyone figured out how to get the Rongleouts trust? I've checked both Sandy (S) and ToAU. Talking to him in South Sandy (S) does nothing and Neither Naja or her assistant provide hints.
tried every npc i could think of and nothing yet. thinking it might be one of those added but not obtainable yet items
Yep, I'm pretty sure he's not yet available. Likely next login campaign trust, as it's happened before that update .DATs have included the next login campaign's trust.
Cerberus.Avalon
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2015-05-20 11:45:09
"Drop and give me 50, Maggots!"
I really hope he becomes an available Cipher at some point. Despite the Assault Rank quests sucking, he added such a huge element of comedy to the 'story'.
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Siren.Kyte
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By Siren.Kyte 2015-05-20 12:19:43
Considering his cipher is already in the dats, there's really no question as to whether or not he'll be added.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-05-20 12:25:25
As long as you don't have to do pushups to get him!
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By Asura.Sabishii 2015-05-20 12:54:53
As long as you don't have to do pushups to get him! You mean as long as we don't have to do Ghost Beetle Crab battle to get him lol
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By Asura.Isiolia 2015-05-20 13:05:42
It just wouldn't feel right to get his cipher without having to do BCG.
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By Asura.Sabishii 2015-05-20 15:30:08
It just wouldn't feel right to get his cipher without having to do BCG.
As long as they don't make us wait a game day between failures, that ***was annoying. Made me nervous because I didn't want to *** up and get stuck waiting a game day to try again.
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2015-05-20 16:06:42
How long after switching unities should it take before I'm able to summon the (UC) leader? I swapped last night and have earned some accolade, but if a specific amount or timeframe is known, I'd appreciate knowing.
Thanks.
Sylph.Ice
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Posts: 305
By Sylph.Ice 2015-05-20 16:13:16
It just wouldn't feel right to get his cipher without having to do BCG.
As long as they don't make us wait a game day between failures, that ***was annoying. Made me nervous because I didn't want to *** up and get stuck waiting a game day to try again.
Can force d/c before failing to try again immediately without the in-game day wait. Goes for all assault rank ups.
By Dsuza 2015-05-20 17:13:07
Hey guys I'm pretty new to trusts.
Is there currently a way to get Cipher: Karaha at the moment? Or just hope they bring it back in a future log in campaign?
Thanks in advance
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2015-05-20 18:38:46
Gonna have to wait it out for now. In the meantime, for WHMs, you're limited to Kupipi, which I'm sure you've found, and Cherukiki, who can be acquired if you've beaten the Ultima/Omega BC in CoP. To get her, just talk to Taillegeas in Ru'Lude Gardens (I-7).
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