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 Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-12-28 16:09:07
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Ragnarok.Returner said: »
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Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Heh, I'm a little sceptical of multi hit WS's and - acc gear I guess x.x
Surprised myself but even on an insanely Evasive mob Heafoc comes out ahead of Avant+1. (using the rest of his set)
Hmmm, that's very odd if you are not capped on accuracy. Are you sure you put in the full stats on Avant+1? the 2% DA should come very close in offsetting the 6 str, and each 2 accuracy is 1% if you are not capped.


Meh you are right, I made the mob so evasive that it floored the hit rate at 20% for both. If you can use the Acc of avant+1 it pulls ahead. Now to figure out how much ACC you need to make a difference.
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2011-12-28 16:12:10
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xD that explains it, I was like wtf?
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-12-28 16:37:35
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Ragnarok.Returner said: »
xD that explains it, I was like wtf?

I'd definitly use Avant+1 over heafoc. On weaker mobs who cares and on higher tier mobs it will pull ahead.

Mathed it out.

If Heafoc takes your WS ACC to 93.1% or lower then Avant+1 comes out ahead.

Heafoc
Acc 93.1%
297
117.048

6.77
2611

4619
1149

241.188 dps


Avant+1
Acc 95.0%
297
117.048

6.77
2611

4618
1149

241.192 dps
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By Asura.Mims 2011-12-29 15:14:08
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Playing with the spreadsheet I have Fulgurante trashing all other options even when you factor in ODD/OD2.5 from Cala/Rag....pretty depressing for us Cala owners lol.
Theres been a lot of discussion of OAT Fulgurante, but how would the OA2-4 Fulgurante stack up? It seems to me that it was situationally good before (Endark build), and now with a 100% STR mod WS it would only get further ahead in the DoT department.

What say you?
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-12-29 18:08:52
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Asura.Mims said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Playing with the spreadsheet I have Fulgurante trashing all other options even when you factor in ODD/OD2.5 from Cala/Rag....pretty depressing for us Cala owners lol.
Theres been a lot of discussion of OAT Fulgurante, but how would the OA2-4 Fulgurante stack up? It seems to me that it was situationally good before (Endark build), and now with a 100% STR mod WS it would only get further ahead in the DoT department. What say you?


Whats the hit spread at 99?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-29 18:20:32
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~2.0 hits/round average
By volkom 2011-12-29 19:28:36
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So what's the top 3 best Gs to use for resolution?
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-12-29 19:29:31
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in no order

TOM
Rag
Calad
By volkom 2011-12-29 19:36:23
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
in no order

TOM
Rag
Calad
lol I want an order D:
Which ToM Gs? Str,tp,oat?
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By Lakshmi.Alryc 2011-12-29 19:48:12
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From reading the older posts, it sounds like Kauriraris (ToM WS DMG+10%) > Ragnarok > Caladbolg


Rag is really nice for the acc, giving you more room for str options in your build. If you're fighting something where acc is an issue, I imagine Rag is gonna perform better.

Caladbolg lets you ride aftermath though.

edit: and yeah the OAT ToM sword mentioned above.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2011-12-29 20:10:58
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Lakshmi.Alryc said: »
From reading the older posts, it sounds like Kauriraris (ToM WS DMG+10%) > Ragnarok > Caladbolg


Rag is really nice for the acc, giving you more room for str options in your build. If you're fighting something where acc is an issue, I imagine Rag is gonna perform better.

Caladbolg lets you ride aftermath though.

edit: and yeah the OAT ToM sword mentioned above.

i thought it was Jesus > OAT > rag > calad > whocares
By volkom 2011-12-29 20:37:39
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Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Lakshmi.Alryc said: »
From reading the older posts, it sounds like Kauriraris (ToM WS DMG+10%) > Ragnarok > Caladbolg


Rag is really nice for the acc, giving you more room for str options in your build. If you're fighting something where acc is an issue, I imagine Rag is gonna perform better.

Caladbolg lets you ride aftermath though.

edit: and yeah the OAT ToM sword mentioned above.

i thought it was Jesus > OAT > rag > calad > whocares
I want the jesus sword
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2011-12-29 20:47:31
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Im almost finished with wsdmg 10% gsword, how good is that on ranking gswords? >_>
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By leva 2011-12-29 20:51:20
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Any reason noone has mentioned using http://www.ffxiah.com/item/11964/whirlwind-dirs ?
By volkom 2011-12-29 22:01:28
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leva said: »
Any reason noone has mentioned using http://www.ffxiah.com/item/11964/whirlwind-dirs ?
cuz they pale in comparison to bale flanchard +2?
except maybe for the DA? but still, acc and attack ftw
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-12-29 22:16:47
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volkom said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
in no order

TOM
Rag
Calad
lol I want an order D:
Which ToM Gs? Str,tp,oat?

That was in order I was jk lol
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2011-12-29 22:23:24
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leva said: »
Any reason noone has mentioned using http://www.ffxiah.com/item/11964/whirlwind-dirs ?

Pure damage wise, whirlwind is the best at the slot. But since it is a multi hit ws, you kinda have to worry about accuracy. If you have Ragnarok, you can definitely go with Whirlwind.
By volkom 2011-12-29 22:23:58
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Ragnarok.Returner said: »
leva said: »
Any reason noone has mentioned using http://www.ffxiah.com/item/11964/whirlwind-dirs ?

Pure damage wise, whirlwind is the best at the slot. But since it is a multi hit ws, you kinda have to worry about accuracy. If you have Ragnarok, you can definitely go with Whirlwind.
i would think tho they would be uber if you cap attack & acc right?
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2011-12-29 23:59:43
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yep, even if not capped at attack, 3% DA is still better than 15 attack.
By volkom 2011-12-30 00:12:45
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Ragnarok.Returner said: »
yep, even if not capped at attack, 3% DA is still better than 15 attack.
red curry buns +1 then u don't need attack items :D
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2011-12-30 00:20:09
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volkom said: »
Ragnarok.Returner said: »
yep, even if not capped at attack, 3% DA is still better than 15 attack.
red curry buns +1 then u don't need attack items :D
not sure if troll..

also lol at noob who was saying not to wear belts and gorgets when FTP bonus is for all hits of new WSs
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-30 00:21:44
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lol at noob who thinks all the new ws got that property

It's a fairly new development for weaponskills so it's understandable that some might not have known yet. In time, that will change.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-12-30 02:45:23
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Whats the hit spread at 99?

We've got a decent thread going on BG working on it (can't parse s'more because I can't get a clear Fortification this week).

There are two ways to call it, one is just 'cleaner' than the other:

In classical form, it's pretty damn close to 40/30/18/12. This comes out to 2.02 hits/round.

There's been some work on producing that spread from having a 60% chance to multihit followed by a 50/30/20 DTQ split. This arrangement explains why DA would override everything instead of being checked somewhere inbetween. It could be as high as a 65% chance on the level 99 weapons from the more recent parse followed by the same 50/30/20 split, while 60% matches some of my old lv85 and lv90 distribution parsing, which I thought was erroneous but came out to about 40/30/18/12 while I instead expected and extolled 40/30/20/10. I thought that some triples followed by singles were counted as quads by KParser.

When I get some additional parsing done I'll be able to pin down if level 99 OA2-4s got bumped to a 64% multihit rate or not.

Overall, OA2-4 Scythe is looking to be the slightly better over the GS version for Merit WS spam because of the single-round occurrence (improved in value with the 12% instead of 10%) with a 5-hit on it and the 2 hits/rd average over 4 hits to WS meaning a very clean 2 rounds to WS average and marginally lower overflow rate.


Btw: Soil Gorget and Belt work for both Resolution and Entropy if you need to obtain Gorget/Belt for either. Was worth the cruor to me to just bitchslap the Cactuar with a brew for the 100% drop, and Xzomit organs are way faster to farm than Phuabo (100% from the 'mother' Xzomit).
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By Ifrit.Semper 2011-12-30 03:11:05
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Ragnarok.Lugat said: »
volkom said: »
Ragnarok.Returner said: »
yep, even if not capped at attack, 3% DA is still better than 15 attack.
red curry buns +1 then u don't need attack items :D
not sure if troll..

also lol at noob who was saying not to wear belts and gorgets when FTP bonus is for all hits of new WSs

Being a noob... wtf is fTP and how does it work?... and will this gearset work ok?

Edit for Gearset
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-12-30 04:19:32
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You want gorget and belt because SE grew a brain and made the 0.1 fTP bump work on all hits.

So 0.75 per hit becomes 0.95 per hit with elemental gorget and belt, or about 26% more unconditional damage instead of just 6% if it were an 'old type' WS.

You're literally adding a full extra hit to Resolution and Entropy 100% of the time with Gorget and Belt, and a smidge of accuracy, I've heard +10 each, to them too (definitely better than a lot of neck pieces, and passable for waist).
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By Lederic 2011-12-30 05:07:50
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What do you guys think about this? Mainly for VW.

TP


Resolution


Any suggestions?
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-12-30 08:55:34
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Lederic said: »
What do you guys think about this? Mainly for VW. TP Resolution Any suggestions?


WS looks good.

TP needs way more ACC unless you are using sushi?
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-12-30 08:57:13
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Should'nt the Dex from borealis help with acc issues?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-12-30 09:04:23
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Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Should'nt the Dex from borealis help with acc issues?

DEX+15 wont automaticly fix your acc problems >_>
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